Double Disaster / Enter Happy Hogan / Of Ice and Men

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A Marvel Comics Animation Presentation Oh, man.

Oh, man. Listen to this song. It's great. Oh,

that's the Iron Man I love right there. Yeah,

that's the OG. Oh, man. That's so good. Yeah.

Clang. And I love how they all have their little

songs, too. I didn't know that one, and I'm happy

about it. So good. Double disaster. The invincible

Iron Man. I'm glad that they don't include that

as much anymore, and they feel like they should.

No, I agree. Oh, only a millionaire scientist

back then. Yeah. That's interesting. I mean,

a million bucks back then was a long way to go.

Basically like a billionaire now. Right. The

new Stark special race car with an uncentered

13. Yeah. Hey, look at look at me. That looks

like him. Yeah, it's actually pretty good. Yeah.

He's holding a brush up for him to talk into.

Really does look like a brush. Oh, 3000 miles

away and they can contact each other. Hey, the

tech is hot. Look out. We're a long ways away

from the nano suit, but you know, a little bit.

We start where we can start. Oh, we got an explosion.

I've got one question for you. The wind machine

is pulling people in. Explosions. Although there's

one of those claw machines where you can win

a prize. Emergency phone. Iron Man's in the plant.

He'll handle it. Yeah. Yeah. Good cover up. Oh,

man. Look at that. He's like putting it on. He's

there in his little Iron Man panties. Oh, he

got sucked into the wind tunnel. Yep. We are

spinning. That's so good. This is great. Oh,

I think I'll be a human fan. Oh, that's amazing.

He'll check with you later. Let me go back in

here and take all this off. Take off your iron

panties. I know. We have a folding mask and everything.

I know. Oh. Antenna on his shoulder. Yeah. I

love that this was, you know, at this time was

the just pinnacle of technology. I mean, this

looks like something that comes in a kid's tinker

crate right now. What is he trying to do? No

one who knows. Oh, there's an alarm. Yep. Everyone

stand up. Somebody tampering with the vault.

Only I know about this. Doesn't sound that way,

Tony. Yeah. Only I know about this giant hallway

under here. Oh, look at him run down the hallway.

Human rat is nibbling. Oh, boy. Professor Chapanka.

Well, your most trusted scientist can't be. Oh,

you trust that guy, right? He's got a similar

mustache. Yeah, my most trusted scientist definitely

looks like a bad guy. Oh, look at that. I mean,

you're going to get shot in the eye, man. Yeah.

Just to open holes where your eyes go. Jarvis.

He's trying to bribe Iron Man. I'm a millionaire.

Did you know? Save your breath, Shavanka. Oh,

what is happening? That's a weird, weird image.

Yeah. Oh, makes me uncomfortable. Oh, OK. Grabbed

him by his scruff and threw him. Yep. Because

that's what heroes do. So this guy turned on

the wind tunnel or broke the wind tunnel to distract

everybody from him breaking into the safe? Is

that what I'm understanding? That's what it seems

like. All right, all right. He was about to steal

$100 and be the wealthiest man on the East Coast.

Releasing him? Yeah, I'm not going to press charges.

What on earth just happened? Why did he just

let him go? Yeah, he's just like, yeah, you're

fine. Yeah, you just tried to steal all my money,

but whatever. I'm Tony. I have plenty. I have

hundreds. Oh, Tony's getting behind the wheel.

That's right. That's classic Tony, though. Kind

of cool. Oh, look how he's flying. Oh, that was

so good. He's doing T -pose flying. Look at the

helicopter feet. Now we have our car with the

off -center 13 again. He's got his ass cut off.

I'm glad they kept it off -center. It's over.

Oh, he took his ass cut off already. There we

go. He's driving. Oh, yeah. You can tell he's

driving because there's blurs of color going

around. Yeah. He's going fast. Yeah. I am speed.

The pain in my chest. Uh -oh. Uh -oh. He forgot

to recharge his arc reactor. This is a built

-in battery. Yeah. Pre -arc. Yeah. This is like

straight from the cave. batteries is as far as

we can go with technology right now. Now that

13 is going to be really, no, he's not going

to make that. There's no way he may survive that

crash. Look at that thing. Does this mean the

end of Iron Man? I'm going to say no. I mean,

you just introduced him to us. Yeah. Here's this

guy. Oh, he's dead already. Is that Jarvis? But

the flames. I might be happy. Oh, blam, blam,

blam, blam. Mister. Get me to a motel room quick.

Oh, Tony, this isn't the time. Oh. All right.

He's plugged into just the wall, I guess. I mean,

that would be convenient. If I were going to

need to recharge my heart, I'd probably make

it adaptable to DC power. Oh, it was happy. Okay,

that's fun. So happy Hogan saved Tony from the

car. That's fun. You know, that's funny. He does

that in Iron Man 2 as well. That's right. Here's

a check. 50 grand. Whoa. He's almost like a millionaire.

Oh, I ripped the check in half. What a guy. I

could use a chauffeur. Oh, man. Okay, Tony, calm

down. You got yourself a chauffeur. Right. Taking

him on a tour of what? The plant? Yeah. This

is a picture of just Iron Man standing in the

desert. Ridiculous. Just ridiculous. He's got

a picture of him in the suit on the wall in the

desert. Is that Pepper? Hey, we got Pepper Potts.

And happy meeting. One of the few gingers that

make it through. She likes to throw her rug at

Jake. Green doll? What does that mean? Why is

she so zoomed in on her face? What's happening?

That was really weird. That was weird. Oh, Pepper.

Oh, Pepper's dreaming about being Mrs. Stark.

Well, do I have some good news for her? Not in

the comics. Oh, that might happen eventually,

I guess. Yeah. Listen, we're putting, oh, why

is he a weird color? I don't know. Maybe he's

in shadow. Why is there a tiger in ice? There's

a cat in a block of ice. It's not even a tiger.

Is it a tiger? I mean, it's a real small one,

but it looks like a tiger. It's an awesome. So

he's seeing if he can thaw this cat and make

it survive. It's alive. He's done it. I'm a genius.

I froze a cat and then thawed it out. Oh. He's

going to give himself the I will create a freezing

suit. Oh, what is happening? He's. Oh, he's trying

to make himself a supervillain and make himself

like an evil Iceman. It's Frozone. It's Frozone.

Where's my super suit? Woman, why do you need

to know? Yeah, that's him. That's the origins

of Frozone right there. The OG Frozone. Yeah.

Money. Money, my dear fellow. Oh, he's just turning

into Iceman. Oh, I kind of dig the spikiness,

though. That is kind of cool, actually. When

I clean out the vault, I'll put you all on ice

for a while. Freeze all the yards and go steal

the money. Makes sense to me. Of course. Nope,

that guy's just blinded. That man is shooting

from inside of a block of ice. You started blasting.

Wow, that woman's got some proportions. She was

weirdly proportioned. She was. I bet a man drew

her. Oh, man, he's just going to town. He's just

freezing everybody. Wow. Topanka. Oh, that laugh.

That laugh. I mean, as evil plans go, this is

a pretty good one. Freeze Iron Man. I do like

it. Is this the fate in store for Iron Man? I

like how his block of ice is crying. Yeah. Jack

Frost. Jack Frost. Okay. $40 ,000. He robbed

a bank and got $40 ,000. The walking deep freeze.

You want them to call you the walking deep freeze?

Really? Yeah. You can't come up with a better

name. Jack Frost isn't very good. Be the walking

deep freeze instead. Blam, blam, blam. Look at

him skate by. Yeah, it's kind of cool to say

that that that trope for icy guys has been pretty,

pretty eternal. Consistent. Yeah. Oh, that's

a slide places. Yeah, they've used they've reused

that panel. Oh, she's hitting with the frizz.

Oh, man. Frozen the cops with the frizz. Freezing

cops left and right. Oh, man, he slides off.

There he goes. I want Stark. Close the door back,

Pepper. He's going to hit you with the frizz.

She's calling him on the radio. It could be 3

,000 miles away. That's what he wants. He wants

you to call an Iron Man. Nobody knows he's Iron

Man. The secret I didn't anything. It's it's

just. She doesn't have a nose, just slits where

her nose should be. He told you to hide. Why

are you poking your head out the door? Right.

Oh, my. Oh. Oh, that's creepy with the eyes moving.

I don't like it. Now it's shooting it out of

his eyeballs instead of his hands for some reason.

Well, I mean, upgrades. Yeah. Pepper has been

frozen. That seems like a problem. Luckily she

called Iron Man on the radio. Man. What is with

this circle frame nonsense? Yeah, that's such

a weird... Weird choice. I wonder how it looks

on the page. Oh, he caught him mid getting dressed.

Iron Man, what are you doing here? It's a lucky

you didn't make him a sidekick. Yeah. You believe

it, Chapanka? Bye. He opens up a trap door. He

doesn't even need to fight him. Oh, man. I'm

coming up to you, Iron Man. Oh, oh, he's fingers

and they're cracking. Wait, wait, wait. He's

got extra. How many arms does he have all of

a sudden? That is creepy. And he's feeling him

up pretty good. Yeah, I got to say dinner first.

You're beginning to feel cold. Yeah, your Iron

Man suit is chilly. From behind the pupils. This

is, this is, oh. That is weird. He's got one

chance to not be frozen by, yeah. One opportunity.

I'm upset. Sees everything he ever wanted. That's

right. From one moment. Oh, he's hitting him

with a UD beam. Burn, crackle, burn. I love how

the UD beam energy is just. Is he giggling? Oh,

now he's squirting him with water or something.

Oh, well. That's something. Oh, small Justin,

and my light becomes a heat ray. There we go.

Melt the bastard. Yeah, there you go. Crackle.

Burn. Burn crackle. He's one adjective away from

being a bowl of rice krispies. Yeah. Oh, wait,

now he's just in a block. Oh, he's melting happy

out. Okay, okay, I get it. Yeah. Time has passed.

You can see the screen is hot. You can see the

heat. You know it's hot because everything's

red. Well, yeah. And it's ripply. Wow. You know,

I think he's going to be okay. Get over yourself.

He's just rambling on fire somehow. Get him!

Before he's cold again. Yeah. Hmm. Weird. Where's

the boss? He's just sitting there with his helmet

off. Pilot to bombardier. TV and radio people

are clamoring for statements. Oh, we got the

brush back. Yeah, brush is back. Oh, his new

right arm. Be happy, happy. Now, what do you

do with that right arm? Careful now. Easy. It's

something in his eye. Oh, boy. That's unfortunate

timing for what I just said. I bet they didn't

think about that when they wrote this. Boy, howdy.

That was a... How's that, Bam? That was a thing

that we watched. That there was a thing that

we watched. Well, folks, we just got done watching

the Marvel superheroes. Season one, episode two,

double disaster. Enter Happy Hogan and of ice

and men. John, you want to tell us how that fits

in the MCU? You know, I tell you. I wish, honestly,

it did more. It's just I wish that there was

some way that I could make this fit in. Because

it was just that good. This Iceman and Tony.

You know, it's kind of crazy because there were

some parallels that we called out. Happy saving

him from the car wreck. Right. Yeah. There's

definitely some parallels. You definitely get

to see little bits of, albeit, you know, 60 years

ago at this point of Tony's wealth and genius.

The things, you know, we got Pepper. Wanting

to be Mrs. Mrs. Stark. I think that's interesting.

Obviously, you know, we've been in the main continuity.

We you know, she gets that. And so it is kind

of neat to see, like you said, definitely some

parallels, but definitely no plug ins either.

Right, right. It's a fun exercise as we're doing

things like this, you know, especially something

like this that is so old, you know, actually

so old when it came out, you know, to think that

they. would have something like this now, like

this MCU, this continuity. Right. I'm sure that

everyone back in Marvel's origins never dreamed

it would have come this far. And that is kind

of cool. Yeah. So no real major Marvel or MCU

plug -ins outside of definitely some parallels,

which we saw, and some absurdities, which I'm

glad that we can negate from our sacred timeline

here. But in terms of comic books, obviously,

with this being directly from a comic book, as

we've discussed before, why don't you take us

through some of that information for these episodes?

Yeah, actually, this one stands out. I don't

know if it's going to be the normal that we see,

much like the Captain America, where those were

three separate comics that were kind of mushed

together poorly. Or if we see things like this,

I don't know if you notice, but it was actually

a cohesive story. I can actually tell you what

happened in this one. The entire story was actually

from one single comic, Tales of Suspense number

45. Kind of cool, even though there were the

three chapter titles similar to the last one,

this one stands out as a single story, which

is kind of cool. Obviously, we get a lot of familiar

faces. We get the first appearance of Happy Hogan.

Actually, that's just the name that Tony calls

him. So because he's so unhappy, he never smiles.

Tony likes calling him that. So fun that we get

that origin. from this comic. We see Pepper,

as you mentioned, she wants to be Miss Stark.

I know that happens in the MCU, but I know that

Happy and Pepper get on for a while in the comics.

So I don't know how that ends or where that leaves

off. But it's interesting that that was her first

inclination in the comics, this being directly

from them. But other than that, I mean, unless

you want to call out things like this was very

much a 60s transistor solve everything, because

all he did was. changed the way he was using

his tech and and and just heated things up and

i want to make this warm and i win yeah it's

it's ridiculous that was just kind of the way

the way it worked back then so it's kind of fun

to see that and of course huge shout out to the

the crash that that essentially became iron man

2 uh with hogan and everything so really love

that and the seeing the xerox comics still it's

just fun to see uh his face barely move when

he speaks and everything, but all in all, what'd

you think? I know I kind of went over a bit what

I thought, but. Yeah, totally. No, well, that's,

you know, that's, that's the content that we're

here for, you know? That's right. That's right.

And definitely it's one of those things. And

the more of these that we do and we'll continue

to do, the more I'm happy that animators actually

take the time to animate things now, because.

It really does not translate well, especially

in this one, we had something that I did not

notice before in any of the others that we've

done is these zoomed in circular sort of scenes

where like the entire screen, I mean, you're

maybe seeing 15 % of your screen and it's a circle

of somebody's face talking. It's very strange.

And not even moving. It's very weird. Right.

Yeah. Just still when somebody, you know, voiceovering,

you know, I assume that this was from. You know,

one of the panels in the book that was just like

that, maybe some kind of transitionary panel

in between four squares was this circle of somebody's

head. I don't know. This is very strange. Like

I said, glad that we've gotten to a point where

the animation actually moves around and crazy

to see how far it's come. I did like this. I

enjoyed this. Uh, Ironman is definitely one of,

one of my favorites. It's hilarious to see the

differences between now and the sixties or like

you said, where everything is just, you know,

the, the most advanced technology he had was

like a two way radio that could go 3000 miles

or whatever. Across the country. Oh my God. Across

the country. Now that's, you know, I mean, he

was so proud of it. We're recording this podcast

with an equal amount of distance right now. You

know, it's so crazy. Like, you know, but, and

the fact that they, you know, They talk about

Tony Stark, the millionaire, and it's like now

a millionaire is basically nothing, like just

some dude that has a couple of rental properties,

has that. So they had to up the game to make

him still be sort of relevant in terms of his

wealth and everything. So it's interesting to

see how that all kind of grows over time. But

the show itself, like I said, absolutely absurd,

a lot of fun, terrible, but amazing at the same

time. Definitely, if you can find these episodes,

please watch them. They are hilarious. Oh, highly

recommended. You get to see a lot of these old

stories and just the juxtaposition between this

and what we know kind of as the MCU proper today

is just wild work. But I did actually thoroughly

enjoy it because it was so bad. It was great.

Yeah. Yeah. And you know, you touched on that

a little bit of now, but I mean, we gotta, we

gotta keep to our, we gotta keep to our, so why

don't you, uh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Um, I absolutely

love, love, love the fact that he was pulling

his suit out of a suitcase and just like putting

it on like clothes and his little iron panties.

That was just the funniest thing I've ever seen

in my life. Uh, I really, really dig that. We

got to see. Happy Hogan and pots and everything.

It just like to see the original cast together

from the beginning. That's really cool. I love

that. And I am a huge Iron Man fan. So this this

is just right up my alley. And I try not to if

I've already read the books, that's fine. But

I try not to read the books that these come from

until after we see them, because I want to be

surprised because they're so ridiculous. And

but I do recommend most of these books do come

to. Well, actually, for this this show in particular,

these come directly out of comics and go read

them because they are just as ridiculous in the

comics and you're not getting every single panel.

So highly recommend you go read these anyway,

because I mean. They're great. They're fantastic.

And they're just as absurd as this is. And I

just I love it. And I can't wait to see more

because this show is going to be something else

for us. Absolutely. Absolutely. The gift that

keeps on giving. Oh, no doubt. Well, we'll see

you in the next one, folks, for whatever it is.

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