The New Deal

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of Stark Industries. It's an old timey car. Yes,

it is. I don't know how to act being in a live

action now. 1931. Yeah, this is the first live

action of this show. Wow. Hashtag firsties. Those

guys are bad guys No, man They're obviously armed.

I think I'd be drawing my service weapons here,

officers. Yeah. Yeah, the dude literally has

a rifle in his hand. I feel like... Mm -mm. No

warnings. Oh, well, that wouldn't have mattered

anyway. Yeah, that was almost Terminator -style

right there. Where are the drugs going? Your

face. Oh, he's straight up taking it. Oh, that

ain't right. That's horrifying. Yeah. Body devils.

How original. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, oh. We're talking

LMDs. These aren't just... I'll bet that these

are LMDs. Oh, that's fun. I like that they did

it all old -fashioned. Noir. Yeah, noir. That's

a good word for it. Better than old -fashioned

-y. Ah, see? Look at that. Look at that. You're

so smart. I have my moments. Powered up. Wait,

so they're saying that Coulson is an LMD? Is

that what I just caught? Well, he's something.

That's what we get for starting with season one.

Or season seven. Yeah. Well, temporal, man. So

there you go. If you just wait, they'll tell

you. We've discussed this many times. I don't

like waiting. Because you have robot brain. So

he was. This really doesn't have the emotional

impact that it does when you're watching them

in order, I'll bet. And that is our dedication

to the cause. That's right. Wait, are we saying

that May died at some point? And Fitz? Oh, dude.

Spoilers. Yeah. No kidding. Well, I'm upset now.

Don't worry. It's not your ghostwriter. It's

the Robbie Reyes ghostwriter. Also known as the

worst one. I'm not getting into this argument

with you. Fair enough. Dude, she's really smart.

That would take a long time. Are you sure? I

know quite a bit. Who's that fool? Who's that

fool? Generic white guy one. I'm pretty sure

that's how he's credited. Back -to -back time

-traveling episodes. Yeah. Will they do it right?

Huh. Oh, May is still alive. Presumably. Possibly

in a coma. Or a coffin. Possibly a coffin. Eh,

I got my Tommy gun. Enoch. Why is that name familiar?

Hey, sir, I'd like some more. That's exactly

what popped in my head. It was hilarious. I want

to make just a drawer full of money. Well, rude.

Purple? That did not look purple to me. It's

just a tip. Just to see how it feels. How are

they still showing credits this far in? Right.

A lot of people. Don't turn him on again. I was

upset last time. Oh. Well, somebody else didn't.

You have Fury's black box from what year? I'd

like to know what's in there. Probably not. Now

kiss. And then when they take the face, it's

not like just the skull. It's a skin, a smooth

skin bubble. Yep. Dracula. Have come to suck

your blood. They got all their old timey hats

on. 1931. Hang on a second. That movie was released

in 1931. That poster wouldn't be that messed

up by then. Write a letter to your senator. Let

him know. I'm about to. Dracula was released

12 days before this. That poster is far too aged.

Well, thank God we got to the bottom of that

mystery. Good job getting clothes for the room.

He's a beaver. Well, damn. Get to a fistfight

right in the middle of the street. Mm -hmm. It's

the 30s. No one's gonna know. I knew I didn't

like that place. Sometimes you just gotta shoot

your shot. Yeah, I guess. That's a good look

from Coulson. That exact exchange is so commonplace

now. Yeah. Creepy guy says something creepy.

Badass woman says, I'm going to beat you up.

Yeah, that's true. Everyone's like, yeah, and

moves on. They didn't like his face. Swordfish.

The password is always Swordfish. Told you. I

told you. The password is always swordfish. So

that makes Critical Role also a Marvel property.

As I said, everything's Marvel. That was unpleasant.

Stabbed his face area. The area where his face

used to be. Enoch. Enoch. Why do I know that

name? Because they said it earlier. Well, it's

obviously cat Jonathan. Wow. My mama doesn't

even use my full Christian name. Are you as much

of a smartass to her? Yes. OK, I expected that

answer. Well, that's not good. Oh, that is good.

Oh, OK, well. I was with you. Yeah, it seemed

bad. It seemed like that's not something you

wanted in your system. The way she delivered

it. She needs to work on her bedside manner.

Right. So she's an inhuman. Man, I feel like

we've missed so much, like six seasons worth.

We'll get there. I'm Stubbs, the armless person.

No, that's awkward to say fingertips. As you're

showing her some new arms. What is it, the tip

that's a problem? Could be. Chill vibes at the

Swordfish Lounge. That's right. That doesn't

seem like a smart thing to do. Knock it back

a shot. Fries your insides. Short circuit in

the middle. Go ahead. Want to talk to the twins.

Well. Kind of say, you know, some attitude up

in here. Looks like a co -op. Well, you just

left him laying there. Mm -hmm. I don't think

that's what police captains do. Obviously. No,

man, why you got to make it so jamming that thing

into everyone's head? Let's sit, figure out what

their face used to look like. Shield technology,

man. Science. We don't ask questions about shield

tech. Hey, yo. Mm hmm. That smile afterward was

excellent. Just in here, absorbing people's faces

from their brains. Man. Get him quick. The trope

never ends where people with guns feel like they've

got to be one inch away from somebody before

they start shooting. It kills me. Yeah. Oh, well.

The face figure outer machine also works as a

good stabbing utensil. Well, I mean, anything

with a sharp point is a weapon, right? Pointing

goes in the bad guy. Yeah, there you go. I was

wondering why she wasn't doing her thing. Because

there's sticks in a dam. Yeah, but... In a dam!

Yeah, they killed a police officer and threw

him in the back of that truck. Everyone on Earth

knows how to hotwire a vehicle. Another common

trope. Well, obviously. You take the two wires

and you tap them together, right? That's all

you gotta do. Why do we even have keys when you

can just do that? It seems silly. Just have the

wires hanging out of the dashboard. Yeah. You're

dead. Your mother's dead. Your brother's dead.

If your intention was to kill those guys, why

would you let them walk all the way up to you

to grab your gun? What is wrong with people?

They dumb, man. Ooh. That suit, too. There he

is hazard Yeah, tell your kids to come at peace

when they lay in the floor unconscious. Yeah.

Good news. The stranger. That's how I feel watching

this episode. Aww. Oh, man. She also said stranger

or just strange. I want to know where Fitz is,

dude. No, he's safe. That's something. Yeah.

You got a dead cop in the back of your truck.

And a cop. Good timing. Yeah, I was going to

say you didn't think of possibly fixing that

problem earlier. Juice joint. I'm going to use

that sometime. Do you want the best juice joint

in South Carolina? Oh. Kind of sounds dirty that

way. It does, doesn't it? The cappers. Oh, man.

Yeah, they're giving credit and shield ultimately

to FDR. Seems so. Interesting. Why are those

two random cops in there looking creepy? I don't

know. Keep putting the plates out. Swing. Swing.

What are you doing over here? Ripples and outweighs.

Everyone's so fancy. Right. Do they have a like

a closet? No, they took their ten dollars out

of that drawer and are billionaires now. OK,

but like if you brought ten dollars back from

2026, it wouldn't look like real money. Well,

yeah, everything in there was made to be. That's

why they had Tommy guns and stuff like that.

They've made it to where it looks appropriate

somehow. Fair enough, fair enough. That 3D printing

technology that S .H .I .E .L .D. has is pretty

good. Well, yeah, they just made some woman two

new arms, so they can at least make some old

-timey bills. I suppose we can expect they're

able to make that if they can make a couple of

arms. Yeah, answer my questions before I slap

you with my new arm. Oh, got it. Take some information.

You're a robot now. We're cool. Give her a high

five. Round of applause. Round of applause. Yep,

yep, yep. Quake, did you not go to school? That

would be pretty wild. It would be. Now we're

friends. We're going to find out in about three

seconds. This guy's having a seizure. Yes, we

are. Or this episode is going to end and we're

going to have to wait for the next one. Oh, no.

Oh, yeah. I wanted a gin martini. Lady in red.

Never a good sign. Oh, that's how that works.

This is the robot cyanide pill. Pretty much,

yeah. Tipple. One figure in history. Who are

you going back to meet? You know, that's a tough

one. I'm short -circuiting, just thinking about

it. I'm telling you. Lady in red dress. Yep.

Yep. I think he's overloaded now. Oh, that like

full on melty. Yeah, I thought it was just going

to be a circle board and smoke was going to come

out of his ears or something. But that was something

else. He goes full Wicked Witch. Yeah. Why you

wouldn't have followed FDR if if that was your

concern? If it didn't happen right then, it's

not going to happen. Obviously. Have you never

watched anything? Ruh -roh. To kill you. You're

gonna touch butts. Bah. Hmph. Okay, that didn't

answer my question. Try again. Oh. Oh. Luckily

they had that little man dialogue exchange other

than just killing him. Right. Kind of a. What

kind of villain would you be if you don't monologue?

Wow. Degradation. Hold tight. Yeah, just as strong

as you, fool. I'm also a robot. I hear that plugging

a thing into the back of their neck works really

well. After a while, sure. Her quake powers pretty

much knocked out the other dude instantly for

about a truck's ride. That was the level one

robot. These are the level five robots. OK, OK.

Did she really just say 1930s baseball reference?

You know, sometimes you just can't think of a

good thing to say. And so you just. Go a little

tongue in cheek. That's a little a little too

tongue in cheek for me. Applesauce. I'm going

to start saying that. Oh, applesauce. Malik.

Wait a second. I know that name. History repeats

itself. Mm hmm. See, again, if you just wait.

I. All right. You're right. This is a learning

experience. We're going to learn this together.

Not by the twenty seven hundred and ninety third

episode. Yeah, that checks out. I was going to

say that's where Mae was, wasn't it? But are

you? She's exorcist -ing up on the wall. Well,

there you go. I'm not sure why May is all shady

and everything, but here we are. She's been in

a tube getting touched by robot hands for however

long. All right. I guess that's that. We will

see you all over in the deep dive. Thank you

for joining us in this episode of the Snark Industries

podcast. To join the conversation and further

explore the Marvel Cinematic Universe with us,

head on over to snarkindustriespod .com. The

link will be in the show notes. But with that,

we will see you in the next adventure.

Hello and welcome, fellow Marvel fans, to the

Snark Industries podcast. I'm John. And I'm Remy.

And we invite you to join us as we work our way

through every Marvel TV show, movie, and crossover.

Meaning if there's a Marvel character on screen,

it's fair game. All categorized in the temporal

order of their setting. By the time we're done,

we'll have built a complete start -to -finish

timeline of the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe.

To accomplish this goal and to have a bit of

fun along the way, each episode will be split

into two parts, a watch party and a deep dive.

If you're hearing this, you found one of our

deep dives. This is where we slow things down

and take a more pragmatic, in -depth look at

a piece of Marvel media. We'll walk through the

full plot, explore connections to the wider MCU

and Marvel comics, highlight Easter eggs, unpack

lore, and of course, give you our own personal

thoughts and feelings. Although this episode

stands on its own, it is designed to complement

the watch party. So, if you haven't watched along

with us yet, we highly recommend starting there

first and coming back here for the full breakdown.

Most importantly, we want to thank each and every

one of you for joining us on this incredible

journey. We're not affiliated with Marvel in

any way, shape, or form. We're just fans who

are passionate about these stories and these

characters and wish to share them with everyone

in a new and exciting way. So, sit back, relax,

and enjoy this episode of Snark Industries. Hello,

ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Snark Industries

Deep Dive. We just finished watching agents of

shield season seven, episode one, John, if you're

able, are you, can you tell us what that episode

was about? So fun to watch this out of place

from the rest of the series by a large margin,

but we have another time trial episode. And as

we are following through this story in the order

of setting, instead of release, uh, it falls

now in the year of 1931. Then we have the Agents

of S .H .I .E .L .D. having gone back in time,

following some Chronicoms to the past to try

and save S .H .I .E .L .D. from being stopped

before it starts. We have a scene in the beginning

where we wake up what immediately becomes evident

to be an LMD of Agent Coulson and everything

that kind of comes out of that. We also have

the Chronicoms themselves stealing the faces

of some... police officers as a disguise to be

able to navigate the 30s and fulfill their mission,

which becomes evident very quickly as they're

going in and trying to investigate this, that

these Chromacons are trying to kill FDR, who

is being ultimately credited in being the direct

catalyst in the founding of S .H .I .E .L .D.

here. Though he didn't start it himself, it's

his actions that led to it being formed. And

so after spending some time meeting some other

characters, including the amazing Patton Oswalt,

who had some great scenes there at a speakeasy,

they ultimately get entry into this big party

that is set up to be for FDR. And during which

we see the Chromacon sort of getting ready for

this assassination attempt. and everything else.

It all is kind of building up to him dying, and

as they all rush to go save him as he's stepping

out to get into his wheelchair, which is hidden

because, of course, he was attempting to hide

his polio from the world, it turns out it's not

him. And one of the captured Chromacons who had

gotten to a little bit of a scuffle with Quake

earlier on revealed that the actual target is

a different person, a man by the name of Freddy,

who was a worker under Koning. Patton Oswalt's

character is mentioned before in the speakeasy,

and we don't really realize his importance until

this mark. And it turns out that the Chromicons

were actually not after FDR at all, but instead

were trying to kill this Freddy, who similarly,

though didn't found it himself per se, his direct

action leads to the formation of Hydra, which

then in turn, as a response, leads to the formation

of S .H .I .E .L .D. So in order to save S .H

.I .E .L .D., we have to save Hydra. appears

to be what they're trying to go for here. And

that is a wild way to go, but I'm here for it.

Ultimately, this is kind of a two -parter episode,

a TBD here. We go through the next episode, which

is next, temporally, fun enough, to see kind

of what happens. But that is the deep dive, the

breakdown, the synopsis of what happened in the

episode itself. How it ties into the MCU, obviously,

there's going to be a lot of ways. Once again,

before we are in a time travel episode, they're

going back to try to stop the prevention of ultimately

the agency that they all work for from even being

formed. Hydra, S .H .I .E .L .D. are thoroughly

ingrained, rooted into all of the MCU. The idea

that they wouldn't be there at all is huge in

implications as to how it all works. Oh, God,

we wouldn't have Cap. We wouldn't have anyone.

Anything. Yeah. That'd be huge. So many things

to change. I would have to imagine, given what

we know, unless they're once again kind of going

off script on timelines, that if these Chromacons

are successful, this would be another branch

into the multiverse. For sure. One where S .H

.I .E .L .D. and HYDRA did not exist at all.

But, you know, I'm a hopeful kind of fellow,

and I would like to think that they are going

to stop this from happening as if it never happened.

And it won't mess with anything at all and everything

will be OK. But we won't know that for sure until

next time. Yeah, so many different things tie

into the MCU in general. Probably too many to

name directly. Of course, the characters themselves

all tie in. Coulson, especially, even though

this is an L &D version, is there and prominent

from the very beginning. So in terms of the actual

MCU proper, we'll call it release. So a lot of

tie ins there. How about comic books specifically?

As far as comic books are concerned, it follows

the Jonathan Hickman's run in 2009 to 2011 of

Secret Warriors. That is heavily dealing with

the Malick family and their creation of. Hydra

itself. And of course, S .H .I .E .L .D. being

a direct response to Hydra, that's kind of the

crux of the episode. This also taps into Captain

America New Deal, which is actually the name

of the episode in question. And that was a 2002

Captain America limited series written by John

Nae Reiber. The fact that the episode was named

after this is returning us to the foundations

of what S .H .I .E .L .D. means. So definitely

not lifted directly from that comic, but... The

moral fiber of that comic, I think, is definitely

there. One quick clarification in terms of the

Malick family is obviously this Freddy character

is a Malick. Is that Freddy character specifically

someone that's in that comic series? Did you

did you see that in your in your research or

is this something that was made up for the show?

I believe that it's made up. I could be mistaken,

but I know that Gideon Malick is the one that

actually started the Council of Hydra. And so

one would assume that this is an ancestor of

his. The timing doesn't quite make a whole lot

of sense as far as Freddy wouldn't be able to

have a kid old enough to kick this off. And there's

also mention of a Wilfred Malick that expands

the lore as well. So I don't see any mention

of Freddy specifically. So outside of family

name, the Malick family is certainly involved.

Yeah, gotcha. Yeah, exactly. But to wrap up the

the comic references, we've certainly we have

to mention the Chromicoms. can be found in the

recorders. It's an alien race of sentient computers

that first appeared in Thor number 132 in 1966.

So these guys are pretty well ingrained in Marvel

history. Absolutely. Yeah. As far as Easter eggs

are concerned, that is about it. So overall,

what are your thoughts jumping in kind of blind

season seven? So definitely. And I'll, and I'll,

you know, go ahead and reveal now early that

I am a few seasons behind even this season on

agents of shield anyway. So. I feel like I have

some missing context for some of the nuances

of the inner character sort of interactions.

Yeah. But overall, I enjoyed this. I still, and

of course, hopefully to see the conclusion before

I can draw a full good stance on things. With

it being time travel once again, and could be

mucking up timelines once again, I'm a little

apprehensive. But like I said, I like to be a

hopeful man. We're going to hope that it all

works out in the second part of this blast from

the past of the Agents of S .H .I .E .L .D. show.

I did enjoy this. You know, I thought it was

fun, kind of interesting to see a good plot twist.

I did not see that coming in terms of them trying

to eliminate Hydra from being formed first. And

that was their way of going after S .H .I .E

.L .D. I thought that was a very interesting

way to do it. Took me by surprise. So it was

fun. No, it was. It was good. One of the one

of the better episodes that I can remember of

the show itself, to be honest. Oh, wow. OK, I

kind of sit in the same boat. I think I pulled

the plug on agents as well. I didn't pull the

plug. I kind of just faded away. Maybe season

four or five. So I've seen a good chunk of it.

I know who most of these characters are. There

were some unfamiliar faces. So I'm kind of kind

of sitting there, too. That being said, I did

enjoy it. I like time travel stories. I like

when things mess with the past, fix things. We've

discussed this a number of times. You don't say.

Yeah, to me. But yeah, to me, this was fun. I

really like Coulson. I really like Daisy. Mac

is cool. There are some characters that I was

expecting to see that I didn't. May being one

of them, but she was another. She was there,

but not the May that we're familiar with. So

kind of bummed not to see that, but also curious

to see where she's going. But overall, I enjoyed

it. Fun episode, but I'm with you. I got to see

the second part to really put my stamp on it.

We're in limbo, but not for long. Yep, not for

long. But yeah, we will see you for the next

episode when we finish out this storyline. Indeed,

we will. Thank you for joining us in this episode

of the Snark Industries podcast. To join the

conversation and further explore the Marvel Cinematic

Universe with us, head on over to snarkindustriespod

.com. The link will be in the show notes. But

with that, we will see you in the next adventure.