Legends and Lies

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I like that music. Hey. That's good. It's thematic,

one might say. One might. So this takes place,

what, 60 years later? I think is what our timeline

says. It does indeed. From the last one. Yeah,

okay. Yep. This is set. Well, we'll see. Yeah.

Oh, we're doing Troy here? Yeah, they give it

away pretty fast. All right, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

That's badass. Yeah, yeah. Continuing the theme

that we had from before. Yeah. All right, they

got the lady archers up there. A DSCS aka Verso

from Claire Obscure. Dude, that was such a good

game. Dude, this is great. I had no idea this

was Troy. That's exciting. I love this story.

Well, it's brutal, but... But you can't guess

who that is. Achilles. He's got to watch out

for those arrows. Yeah, just don't turn your

back on the arrows, right? Keep your face in

front of the arrows and they won't hit your foot.

They wouldn't have had to use that horse if they

had Gronned to knock down doors. That's a good

call out. Gronned. Man, that's one of those things,

those historical things that are so... Like the

hot oil dumping them. Dude, it's so messed up.

I would not be signing up for knocking down the

door duty if I were to be a... I don't think

in this time you really signed up for anything.

Not to go back to our conversation from last

time, but... I don't see any bangles, so you

think about that however you want to. That's

fair. Man's got like the opposite of a farmer's

tan. You see that? Yeah. Okay, so I think that's

our Wakandan. I mean. What makes you think that?

Don't like to assume, but there's a certain pattern

I'm noticing. Could be, could be. It's safe to

assume when the accent matches. Oh, yeah. And

he's got purpley tech is the thing to do. Yeah.

Good call out. It's happening. You should tell

her to get a massage. Yeah. Who needs it? Rub

my shoulders. I mean, I'm here for that energy,

to be fair. Wakanda. Love it. Love it. Dude,

I'm stoked. I had no idea. Yeah. They threw us

a little story before. Yeah, right. The credits

this time. Yeah. When they mix it up and make

me feel like I'm losing my mind because I did

think that for a moment. Keep you on your toes,

man. yeah they forgo credits here who cares who

made this stuff anyway you know I should have

been paying more attention so this is this is

very much specific to this episode okay cool

or at least that scene was so this might be from

the next or later in this episode yeah so the

okay I'm betting we're seeing scenes from all

four episodes here I wasn't paying enough attention

last time. Well, you're learning as you go. That's

right. That's right. And as long as you're learning,

that's all that really matters. I do love that

the last name of the person that the what is

that? The executive producer was a last name

Fang. That's kind of perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Guys, this is my calling. Is that? What's his

nugget? The one that stupidly got himself killed

in the movie Troy? His nephew? Patrickless. Ah,

there it is. Thank you. I love that movie, man.

Dude, that is such a good movie. The way that

dude got knocked over with that gal, the look

on her face before she dropped was pretty damn

funny. Oh, man, that guy's punching guys in armor.

Yeah, he is. He's got them Wakandan fists. He

don't care. He's like a honey badger. That's

good for enemy troops and for the ladies. Maybe

that's Doomfist. Early days. Oh, man. Yeah. You're

right. You figured it out. Crack the code. Doomfist

is a Marvel character. You heard it here first.

Damn it, Delta Hades. It's like, but I don't

want to. Oh, they blew the horn, even though

we took this wall up here. Oh. That's what that

guy gets for fucking questioning the official

story. Damn. See, that wouldn't work with a bullet.

Just go right on through. All these archers,

they need to learn something from the sheet area

from episode one. Dude, for real. Hang some sheets

places. This won't be a problem. They just left

their climbing stuff. Don't just stand there,

man. You got archers shooting at you. Fool. Oh,

he's such a badass. I know. We have the dramatic

irony of knowing what's up with that heel, too.

Got him. I mean, everyone needs a good scream

into the void sometimes. I've always said that.

You know, it does feel good sometimes. What?

What? This guy's cheating. I want me one of them.

A little spray canister of back to full health.

Oh, that's beautiful. I love the art in this

show. Really, really beautiful. Yeah, it is.

It is really well done. It is really well done.

I guess throwing things. He's very okay with

wasting just whatever. He threw that sword up

the wall and I was throwing those things into

the fire. Whatever, Achilles. Just out here wasting.

God, that really is beautiful. Dude, I want to

visit Troy someday. Is it still there? I'm not

entirely sure. I think some of it. Well, if you

go, you have to stand outside the big wall and

yell Hector over and over again. Or it doesn't

count. Oh, obviously. Right. That is one of the

best scenes. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. And nothing else.

This makes me want to watch that, which is something.

Dude, right? Hey, it's got the Hulk in it. Or

one of them. That's right. He is the titular

Hector. Well, not titular, but what we're talking

about. We'll get there. And I'm sure we'll reference

this again at that point. It's also got Striker

and Sabretooth from the X -Men franchise. Dude.

Oh, barbarian. Calm down. That sounded like a

derogatory term. Look there in the back. Jesus

is back again. He does not look Trojan to me.

I mean, from what we saw. Oh, look, there's the

one guy. He's covered up. See, there he is. Oh,

that's a bandage. I thought that was wearing

a robe. I was really like, I was like, man, even

his outfit's different. He does have Owen Wilson

right behind him, though. Yeah. Wow. Needs a

little bit of a broken nose, but. That's not

Owen Wilson. That's Mobius in Mobius. Oh, right,

right. He's just keeping an eye on things. Wow.

That would be an insane Easter egg if that was

intentional. I don't think it is. No, I don't

think so either. But man, that would be something

else. Oh, we know this trick. We know this trick.

I paid attention in history class. It's weird.

It's like there's a whole saying about a Trojan

horse. It irritates me that they call it the

Trojan horse. It wasn't Troy's horse. Well, it

was. They gave it to him. I mean, at the end,

I suppose it was. It's a gift. Yeah. You know

what? You're right. You're right. You got me

there. Wasn't it Sean Bean that came up with

that? Oh, that's cool. Oh, the first Blackberry.

I like this font. Almost got the Deathly Hallows

for A's. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's the same one

they've been using. Is it? Let's see if I can

get my hands on that font. I like it. Skip over

Helvetica right to Wakandan. That's right. The

man is a lunatic. So he's playing a double agent

or something. Yeah, I'm curious to know what

his objective is. I'm also irrationally upset

about how his beard doesn't have a mustache.

It's just shaved upper lip. Hey, he's rocking

it, man. He's rocking it. I really appreciate

the water in this show. Like every time they've

shown water, it's been really, really pretty.

Oh, look at that. Look, we go putting it together.

He wasn't so sure about that justice. We lost

the war. Here's a gift. Tee hee. Nothing to see.

The fact that this is part of history, like how

stupid are you? How dumb do you have to be? I've

always, I've always legitimately wondered is

how airtight that thing had to have been for

all the guys that would have taken to push that

thing into the city to not notice that it was

full of guys. Seriously. Yeah. I don't know.

No sounds, not seeing anything, not smelling

anything. Yeah. Well, I mean, just a horse full

of men. That's that's one thing I always think

about is how absurdly stinky the past must have

been. Oh, I know. I don't think they would have

noticed a smell. I'm upset right now. Yeah. Yeah.

It reeks like I can smell this scene. I guess.

Yeah. I guess if everything smelled so bad, then,

yeah, what's one more thing that smells bad?

And you don't notice the trap door on the bottom.

That was pretty damn obvious. Come on, guys.

Just got very quiet. Oh, man. I'm glad those

guys are just hanging out in their helmets. Oh,

now they're just dead in their helmets. Oh, but

he got there. Nah, you let him run too far. Yep,

yep, yep, yep. Well, that's your fault. Yeah,

you just stood there for a minute. Totally. Oh,

oh, there you go. There you go. Yes, give me

the Brad Pitt. Yeah, punch a man in armor with

your bare fist. That's always been my favorite

thing. Kills me. Like I can understand, Achilles

has been blessed, but that's not blessing. That's

just bad. Where's he going? Where are you going,

Brother Bear? Brother Bear. Ruh -roh. Well, damn.

He just pushed that guy in the wall hard enough

to kill him. Seriously, man. That's some brute

strength right there. These Trojan soldiers are

pretty soft is what I'm getting at. That's what

we're learning, yeah. It's like the stone is

no better. Look at him go. Yeah. Troy in general

was just ready to fall regardless. That's what

I'm learning from this episode. Right? Yeah.

Oh, man. It's like sandstone, all of it. Maybe

it's not there anymore. Paris is always such

a weenie. Oh, man. Imagine being. Remembered

in history for always being such the weenie little

bitch. He needs his piece of Wakanda back. The

theme continues. Put the thing back where it

came from or so help me or so help me. Yet another

great movie. Yeah. Oh, shit. You helping the

enemy. She just pushes his head. Yeah. Oh, snap.

Not someone you want to be on the wrong side

of the sword with. Fire in the back room. So

cool. Dude, the art in this show. So good. Achilles

thinks he's a Trojan. Achilles was dumb. That's

that's confirmed. Yeah. Yeah. Not the sharpest

conclusion there. I'm from a whole different

continent and it's bigger, way bigger. Right.

Like, dude, you notice the accent. Does this

sound like a Trojan accent to you? Oh, careful.

You might cut through the floor there. Yeah.

Yeah. Troy is not made to stand up to such punishment.

Pick your sword up, Achilles. Oh, he's fine somehow.

It's just like that swan dive in the last episode

into the ocean. That's a cool shot. Well, you

know, we discovered episode one and episode two.

We're just we have to throw inhibitions to the

wind here and just believe that these guys are

OK. Oh, oh. That can't be good. What have you

done? Oh, no, it's fine. Never mind. Oh, shit.

I don't know that I'd want to go up against Achilles.

I don't care if I have Wakanda attack or not.

Yep, confirmed. Director was or is an active

Overwatch player. Yep, that's got to be it. Do

you know if it's the same hand or not? I didn't

play enough Overwatch at that point. You know,

if you wouldn't have asked me, I probably could

have told you. I want to say that his special

fist is his right fist, but... Ah, theory busted

then. Oh, there it is. There's that heel. There

it is. You knew it was coming. Oh, damn, his

arm is messed up. Cut a band's ankle and tell

him to stay down. Yeah, right. So wrong. So what,

like Achilles loses all his battle prowess if

he gets his ankle touched? I mean, it's more

than touched, but still, I feel like Achilles

wouldn't have died like that. That seems silly.

Well, they're obviously taking some liberties

here. I'd say so. It seems so. I'd have to dust

off my Homer, but I think this is embellished

a bit. Probably just a hair. Not everything.

I love the tropes are tropes and you can just

you can just follow them. For the boatman. That's

right. I like that. I like that little attention

to detail. Yeah, same. Very nicely played. Do

you know what's supposed to happen if you don't

provide the coins? I think Kieran gets upset

and talks to the manager. I'm not sure though.

Kieran more like Karen. Jesus. Yeah. Well, this

goes home and just. Puts on a robe and walks

with your gangsta lean. Okay. Oh, hey, look.

It's Noni. She's back. That's really cool. Cool

little cameo tie -in. Yeah, I like that. I like

that a lot. No, I'm glad they brought Noni back.

I'm sure that they have been yearning for your

approval. I'm sure. It's like he's definitely

kept up on shaving that upper mustache. That's

right. Very important to him. It's a daily routine.

That's the common thing. For king and country.

Mm -hmm, mm -hmm, mm -hmm. It's that Nick Fury

eye patch thing going on. Now kiss. All right.

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and enjoy this episode of Stark Industries. Welcome

to the Deep Dive. We've just watched Eyes of

Wakanda, Legends and Lies. John, why don't you

go ahead and take it off with the synopsis? Absolutely.

So I think the first thing I'd like to mention

before we actually get to the breakdown of the

episode itself is, apart from the first one,

this episode actually had a different director

and writer. Oh, I missed that. Which I felt was

interesting. And it will become more interesting

as we continue on down the episodes later on.

But for now, we'll just say different writer

and director. So Legend of Lies takes place in

around the 1200s BC during the Trojan War. What

we have here is the story of another Wakandan,

Pakai, who goes by Memnon. as he fights alongside

the Greeks in the Trojan War. And so we have

this insertion of a Wakandan militant being part

of the Greek army and ultimately the story of

the Iliad, which is kind of what we get a snippet

of, which is a very interesting take as we go

into a real, common, well -known story that people

are already familiar with. Try to tie it into

with these characters and his there. So, you

know, they go through and they show he fighting

along Achilles. They're very clearly close throughout

the thing. And, you know, you kind of follow

along as they. try to breach the walls of Troy

unsuccessfully. We all know this part, and ultimately

Odysseus, who was there as well. Semi -successfully,

but they were called back. Well, right. I mean,

they handled their little portion, but the Greek

army as a whole would be defeated if they kept

going forward because they weren't able to have

the same success, which is kind of what I meant.

They're unable to, as an army, get over the walls.

So they come back, they retreat. Odysseus has

the great idea to build this horse, load it full

of soldiers, send it inside, let those soldiers

come out and let the rest of the army in. So

we kind of all know how that story plays out.

I think that anybody who attended school at any

point during their life is aware of this story.

Or likes good movies. Or likes good movies. I

was literally about to say, or that anyone who's

ever seen. The Brad Pitt rendition of Troy has

done this. But ultimately, we get towards the

back half here. We get Bakai here, who's got

obviously some ulterior motives. He's got some

sort of device that is allowing him to communicate,

which is clear as being used to send back to

Wakanda. He is an operative that is undercover

here to... gather a artifact that has been taken

that has been lost that has been somethinged

and is now here and it turns out that helen uh

has this necklace this artifact which is a necklace

and bakai goes in convinces her that he wants

it needs it and that he'll let them go he both

her and paris who are fleeing the city as the

greek attack happens and she agrees and achilles

sees this happening And ultimately feels betrayed,

you know, realizes that Bakai has been lying

to him about something. He's not really quite

sure what, but sees this necklace, sees him letting

ultimately the enemy of Greece go. And they have

a fight out in the courtyard outside of Helen's

bedroom area. And, you know, it's shown very

clearly, very quickly that this artifact is vibranium.

Achilles tries to attack it, you know, and of

course it absorbs that energy, kinetic energy,

which we know this metal can do. And long story

short, we have a change in ultimately what everyone

would know is the thing, not only this character

Bakai being inserted, but ultimately is the one

who kills Achilles. Who was unable to relent

about this, this artifact and going back to Greece.

And so a guy then takes it back and we do have

a brief conversation. Once he returns back to

Wakanda sometime later, I believe six months

was the timeframe after this, this battle with

Achilles. He talks to Noni, talks about how he

feels like a stranger. It doesn't, you know,

feels out of place. Apparently he's been gone

for nine years undercover with the Greeks working

on this. But that's wild. Yeah. And, you know,

doesn't want to be here. So, you know, the the

idea is that he's going to be sent off on another

mission. And this this sort of cycle of sending

out these these agents, these war dogs and everything

else to go and to get these artifacts and bring

them back to keep Wakandan technology outside

of the world continues here. And, of course,

we'll continue as we continue to go through the

various things. things of Wakanda through these

episodes. Yeah. Which is kind of crazy because

the first episode took place 60 years prior to

this. And the next one, if I'm not mistaken,

is nearly a thousand years later, maybe, maybe

2000. It's actually significantly more than that.

Yeah. So the next, the next episode, of course,

we'll get to that is, is called lost and found

that it is at 1400 CE, uh, the common era. So,

yeah. the next episode in eyes of Wakanda, but

the next episode we'll be watching is actually

going to be right. Well, that's, that's, yeah,

that's what I meant. Yeah. We're, we're going

in temporal order as everyone knows at this point,

hopefully. Uh, but yeah, for the, this actual

show, if you're, if you're watching it in that,

in that form, yeah. The next episode of eyes

of Wakanda is lost and found 1400. Yeah. So looking

forward to seeing what that's got. Absolutely.

As do I. And, uh, and we'll get there. And so,

but in the meantime, let's, uh, let's talk about

this episode. And how it ties into the MCU in

general and everything else. Do you have any

thoughts on that? Well, similarly to the first

episode, the biggest tie -in to the MCU is obviously

just Wakanda. There's no – even the amulet, we

didn't see any Easter eggs like we did the pickaxe

from the first episode. I didn't pick up anything

that was primarily Marvel, something that I could

identify from the movies or comics or anything

like that. There wasn't this was actually, I

think, less tied into the MCU, with the exception

of tying it to Noni and by Noni tying it back

to the MCU. So it was simply a story told out

of time, which was kind of cool. It was almost

entirely standalone. And I kind of dug it. But

it does still take place in the main Marvel MCU,

which is cool. Agreed. And I and I see that,

you know, an expansion just to kind of expand

on that just just a smidge. An expansion of kind

of the theme of not only the show that we have

here, but of Wakandan history in general, of

being this isolationist. Isolationist at all

costs. You know, we have this fight between Bakai

and Achilles that obviously was very emotional

for both of them. Achilles more angry and hurt,

betrayed, and Mennon knowing that it wasn't.

really about Achilles, but still had to uphold

his duty to his country, was meant to sort of

facilitate some of these feelings of heaviness

that comes from two ultimately brothers in arms

having to go at each other because of different

allegiances and things. So interesting to expand

on that. I think a bold move to expand it into

actual - Such a well -known story. Yeah. Yeah.

But well done. So but yes. Yeah. Well, well done

in terms of tie ins to the MCU. I think you hit

the nail on the head there. So that's that's

how it's tied in. And and how about for comics

in general, for those that prefer to expand their

horizons outside of just the. television and

movie theater yeah i did a bit of deep diving

for this one and i did not find a single comic

book time and obviously there are tie -ins to

as as you noted uh real world events yeah as

far as comics are concerned these are completely

original characters there there was nothing i

found i mean last time we saw the war dogs we

saw the dora milaje we saw things that were very

familiar to us beyond wakanda itself and the

overall of Wakanda, the secrecy, yada, yada,

et cetera, et cetera. There really isn't much

of a tie in. So, yeah, this is this is very much

a standalone. I didn't see any Easter eggs and

I could be very wrong. There could be Easter

eggs hidden, maybe some carvings on on a sword

or some nonsense like that. But I certainly didn't

pick anything up. Interesting enough, I don't

think that I did either. And and so, yeah, you

know, we had episode one, which was already very

loosely tied in. Original characters, original

story. This one, as you said, and I agree with

even more so of a standalone story, which I'll

be interested to explore further with the different

director and writer here. And as I said, the

later episodes where the episode one director

writer, episode two director writer has some

tie -ins. Yeah. Where they do some things together.

They collab a little bit for the further. final

two episodes we'll get we'll get to that when

we get to that but interesting and something

to look at i think and i look forward to to as

we progress through these obviously because we're

watching them in as you said a temporal order

i'm looking forward to seeing these things that

we're we're starting to see and i'm wondering

if in future projects that they're going to pick

up names like noni or bakai or some some characters

might be brought to the forefront as a nod in

future projects. I'd love to see this more tied

in, in a, in just kind of a tip of the hat way

in future films or projects. Absolutely. Absolutely.

All right. Well, why don't we spend a few minutes

here talking about our thoughts and feelings?

I think, you know, obviously we do a little bit

of that already, but. Yeah. Why don't you take

it away? Yeah. So for me, I enjoyed the episode.

I thought that it was. Similar to episode one,

very well written in terms of how it flows, the

choreography of the fight scenes and everything

else was really cool. It was neat to once again

get an entirely different, as we talked before,

you know, we had the Vikings, we had the Japanese,

some samurai influence we had, you know, and

here we have the Greek, sort of this Greco -Roman

style motifs and soldiers and different things.

I thought that was interesting in terms of the

overall show itself. I would say that I like

this one less than episode one. And the reason

I say that is because I don't appreciate pulling

something from a story and changing it to fit

your own goals. So I didn't necessarily mind

Bakai being a part of the Grecian army. You know,

Grecian army is huge. The idea that, you know,

this, this extra fellow was here. Yeah. That's

not a problem at all. And if they had kind of

stuck with that, I think that I would have been

more okay with it. But this idea that, oh, it

was actually this, this Wakandan guy that killed

Achilles. Yeah. It takes anything Paris had and

throws it away. Right. Yeah. Well, I mean, you

know, it just, I mean, this, you know, that when

they're taking a very big, very well -known story

and just like, all right, well, we're going to

change the end. You know, we're going to the

end of the movie. You know, Harry doesn't defeat

Voldemort. You know, it's actually. It's Luna.

Yeah, right. I mean, you know, it's one of those

things. It's just like, I get what you were trying

to do. I appreciate that you're trying to show

that Wakandan history is world history. I think

that's a theme of the show. I like that. But

the idea that you had to take ultimately a pinpoint

of an ending to a real story. And take that away

from it to make your thing work better. I didn't

really love. This is for me the second time that

I've seen this. I know for you it was the first.

I didn't appreciate that the first time. I thought

this was a lot less. Still good. Still worth

watching. But just a lot less in the first episode

because of that. They're just taking some liberties

on some stuff rather than having a true unique.

you know story told like noni in episode one

okay so that's that's my thoughts and feelings

how about you uh you know what it's funny i'm

sitting on the opposite side of that coin i i

thoroughly love it when people take real events

from history and fictionize them i love stories

that insert characters and create a reason for

something that we're familiar with to have happened

Great examples of this. I'm trying to think of

a really good example of this, but this is actually

a really silly example. But Lion King 2 .5, did

you ever see it? You know, I don't know if I

saw that one. OK, 2 .5. It's Lion King. Yeah,

it's the Lion King story told from Timon and

Puma's view. And all the things that happen in

that story are at some point attributed to the

happenings of Timon and Puma. And I thought it

was clever and funny and entertaining. And I

love when you take a story that you're familiar

with and you insert this, let's be honest, absurdity

into it because it is a known factual story.

It is something that we're already familiar with.

And you you give your own little flavor of twist.

I am all for it. I absolutely love that kind

of story. I love things that. that give you a

completely different perspective on something

you're already familiar with. Sure. And you know,

the differences of opinion, which is why they're

just that opinions. And, and I totally respect

that. Yeah, of course. I'm glad that you enjoyed

it. And yeah, I believe that's about all there

is to say, unless you have something else. I'll

just give everybody a, another big thank you

for joining us for the deep dive of legends and

lies. And we'll see you on the next one. Yeah.

You guys have a great one. We'll see you next

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