The Origin of the Hulk / Enter the Gorgon / To Be a Man

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Got the shakiness. I know. The screen shakes.

Oh, there you go. I love how everyone has a theme

song. That's so good. Oh, God, with the kids

singing and everything. Oh, his bald spot. Oh,

no. He just bounce like a bunny. We need to get

more of the bouncing Hulk. We got that in the

Hanna movie, but we haven't really seen that

with the any later. That's true. That's true.

That's very phallic. Yeah. A phallic gamma bomb.

And I know just where to put it. That's what

they're calling it. Dr. Bruce Banner. A fellow

scientist angrily argues with him. As scientists

do. Igor. His name is Igor. Oh, is that Thunderbolt?

Thunderbolt, yeah. Yeah. Thaddeus. Oh, he's telling

him to speed it up. Oh, that's how it always

goes wrong. That's how you get soaked in gamma

radiation. Correct. Oh, there's Betty. She also

doesn't have a nose. Just slots where a nose

should be. It's the essence of a nose. Yeah,

she's Voldemort -ing. Oh, no. She who shall not

be named. Yeah. I think we're out of the Tommy

gun era. Yeah. He's sorry, man. He's just sitting

here smoking a pipe in the middle of this highly

dangerous gamma. Well, no, he'll blow up just

himself. Yeah. And not even really then. Right.

All right, taking a ride out to the Gamma Bomb?

Yeah. Or the shelter. Hey, you know, sometimes

you have a little joy riding in the desert, and

you just want to drive it to the big phallic

Gamma Bomb. Yeah, obviously. You see, what's

that out there? I want to see. Nope, they're

doing the weird stances again. Sure. Yeah, well,

sometimes you get just caught in a position.

You can't move. Every time I drive off somewhere,

I'll leave a lingering cloud of snow like that,

too. Obviously. Look how fast he's going, too.

Man. He's serious about it. He's going to save

this teenager who's rolling a joint in his car,

it looks like. I think he was playing harmonica.

Well, same thing. Ah, tomato, tomato. Yeah. I

didn't know. Looks like he saved him. And Igor's

just going to push the fire button anyway. This

guy. Well, he angrily argued with him just moments

ago. So think about that. Igor. Oh, it's safe.

That was something else. Huge explosion happens.

I don't think it's so safe, Bruce. Oh, that's

kind of funny. Oh no, what's happening to Bruce?

I hope he's okay. It's a miracle you're still

alive. Don't worry, that other kid is also still

alive somehow. Yeah, how did he not get soaked

in gamma radiation? Well, he's Rick Jones, that's

why. Mr. Rick Jones, wow. Rick Jones. Orphan.

Orphan. That's how I. You're about to be Rick

Jones. Nega. Mega. Orphan. Yeah. Rick Jones.

Married. Oh. I'm going to introduce myself that

way. You guys just met like 10 minutes ago. Right.

Why is even there still? I don't know. Yeah.

You're fine. Go home, kid. What do you think?

I'm going to make you a mascot or something.

Geiger counter's going off. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It looks a lot like Frankenstein. Rick Jones

should be dead again. He just got slapped by

the Hulk. Again. Yeah, that's not something you

want to get slapped by. He's pounding down the

walls. He's going. He's leaving. Bam, bam, bam,

bam. Oh, man. Wow. Just. Destructive for no reason.

I mean, that's kind of the Hulk's M .O. We are

watching the Hulk. Yes, yes. He destroyed stuff

and now he's wandering off into the woods. Wait

for me. Rick Jones is chasing him down. Wait

for me. Yeah, why are you here? Go home. Right.

Oh! We've got to find that Hulk. That random

soldier is the one that gave the Hulk his name.

Two foot thick concrete wall. Went right through

it. Easy peas for Hulk. Look how that guy's standing.

Inhuman. He's just looking around. Yeah. A little

analytically. He's out there wrestling with a

tree or something. Bushes? Rick Jones. He's just

chilling with the Hulk. Let's be friends. As

you do. Oh, man. The faithful Rick. The faithful

Rick Jones. I've known you for like 20 minutes,

bro. He just showed up there either smoking a

joint or playing the harmonica or perhaps both.

And now he's faithful Rick Jones. One would explain

why he's so attached. That's true, yeah. He had

an experience. Oh, his eyes are uneven. So Igor

is, is, is a breaking into Bruce's house. Well,

what's that all about? He's got his, he's got

to get back there first is my big question. You

got a Hulk bunny hopping through the, he left

the forest to go home. Question mark. And Igor

was there. Question mark. He tried to shoot him.

Question mark. And he slapped the shit out of

him and said, question mark. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I think we're tracking checks out. Yeah. That's

what we're doing. I think so. I think so. Enter

the Gorgon. OK, so we're on the second part.

See if these. Oh, it looks like it's continuing

the story cleanly. Yeah. Oh, crack. Blam. I bet

he's going to crunch that gun in his hand. Place

your bets, folks. I hope so. Oh, yeah, there

it is. There it is. Crunch. Yeah. Try again,

little man. Articulate Hulk. Very, very upset

with his voice. Yeah. Try again, little man.

Top secret report on the gamma ray bomb. It's

on the bottom of a beaker. Yeah, it's just taped

down there. What on earth? That'll show him.

That must be a massive beaker. It was folded

up real small. Who's Bruce Banner? No puny banner.

Only Hulk. He was you. This is very like a Frankenstein

-ish monster versus Hulk we understand today.

Yes. Yeah, you can definitely see where they

got their inspiration. Yeah. Sun's getting real

high, little man. Oh. Okay, sun's up. I'm Bruce

again. Yeah, that's how that works. Well, evidently

it did at some point. That's wild. So very Jekyll

and Hyde. Yeah, you heard it here first, folks.

The Hulk is actually a werewolf. I know the Hulk

came in, yeah. Yeah. Is that guy supposed to

sound Southern? The Hulk. I don't know. I'm offended

in either case. I think that's fair. Rick, why

are you still here? Who do you think he is? The

Hulk? Seriously, why is this kid just hanging

around? What is it with superhero kids hanging

around heroes? This is obviously clearly a top

secret area. Oh, wow. Oh, man. These descriptions

are hilarious. You did not find that formula.

Yeah, what happened to your shirt? Can you explain

that? No. Are his pants purple? No. The pants

also change color when he transforms. Yeah, well,

it's kind of funny. Rick's pants are a little

purpley. Oh, now that, wait a second. They just

changed pants. Wait a second here. He's got some

of those fancy change -o pants -o. Lady Voldemort's

talking to him. It's all over. It's just started.

Once more. How will he not be the Hulk once more?

Based on what we've seen so far, the answer is

tonight. Sundown. These American fools. Igor's

stewing away with his little thumb circuitry.

That's more advanced technology than Tony had

just a minute ago. I was just about to say, like,

that is more impressive than the 3 ,000 mile

radio. Is that Tony's radio? He's got one in

every house. I love his, like, terrifying organ.

Assign the task to a subordinate. As you do.

And then there's this guy. Well, that's the subordinate.

Well, it was passed on from that subordinate

to another. He's at the bottom of the hill. Keep

rolling. Oh, man. Why do all the bad guys sound

the same? He's probably the same guy. Yeah. One

bad guy. He's a hideous baby. It's a potato.

It's a sweet potato. Yeah. Yeah. It's a sweet

potato at the Hunchback of Notre Dame had a baby.

He sounds a little bit like a Aqua Teen Hunger

Force. Yeah, it's me, what? Yeah, yeah. He kind

of looks like him, too. Look at his face. Jeez.

I kind of don't want to. Oh, boy. What will happen?

Why do you look like that? Why is he scratching

his eyeball? Oh, it's like coming out of a socket.

It's uncomfortable. Oh, we're back with Igor.

Thank God. Behind the steel curtain. Oh, oh,

we got to recap. Because in case you forgot.

Recap. So what had happened was. Let's see what

had happened was. To be a man. This is terrible.

So uncomfortable. Let's see some of that. Oh,

there's a submarine. Nope. It pushed right out

of the water. That guy's also smoking a pipe

in a submarine. Oh. Oh. Wait. Oh, the Gorgon

has landed? I'm a little confused. He launched

himself. Okay, got it. Got it. That makes sense.

That's how I get around. You know, you gotta

do what you gotta do. Look at the stars. You

can see the galaxies and everything. That is

a really clear night. That was pre -pollution.

Well, you see the pollution happening in real

time. Look at that smoke coming out from behind

the Jeep. Oh, sun's going down. Oh, that's what

it was. That's why they were showing the galaxies

and stuff. They had to remind you it's nighttime

and he's about to be a monster. Oh, no. Rick

is lucky to be alive. Somehow still alive. Again,

uninjured, too. Yeah, the purple pants. Yeah,

the pants are purple. Oh, yeah, obviously. Oh,

Hulk looking for Betty. Yeah, Lady Voldemort.

Classic. Luckily, that happened right where the

Gorgon was. Well, yeah, he was out in the middle

of the desert waiting for him in that bush. Yeah,

well, he shot himself with a missile. Stop using

your brain, woman. There is no Hulk. He's right

there. I know. What? Oh, she's painted. Yeah.

Shut up, little man. He's over there suddenly.

Oh, and here's the Gorgon. Man, all these people

being in the same place at the same time is just

great. Great timing. Yeah. How did Betty get

to the middle of desert? Yeah. And then about

she just I'm so I'm so confused. Best not to

question the official story. It seems that way.

She was in the middle of the desert with all

of them because she had to be. Noted. Because

this continuity doesn't hold up without that.

Gun of my own design. It looks like a pistol.

Instant. Oh, it's a slave bullet. That's a slave

bullet. Yeah. Naturally. Oh, and Rick. He shot

them both. Rawls. Did it work? Oh man, he's got

a couple of good slaves there. Where do I get

you one of those slave bullets? That seems like

that would be like a pretty powerful thing in

the world of superheroes. Yeah, absolutely. Especially

if you're going to take down the Hulk. Yeah,

one shot the Hulk. That's pretty incredible.

One would call that OP. Say that again. No, that's

a yellow raft. Yep. To a submarine. Those can

also be used for blowing up stuff. And now they're

in space. Now they're in space. Yep. Like a dope.

Wait. So wait, wait, wait. He's turning back

into Bruce in space. Well, it's nighttime in

space always. No. Okay. But it's daytime. Okay.

That's like asking what time is it on the sun

or what time is it in the moon? Who's on first?

I'm so confused. Why did he take him to space?

What? I think the question you need to be asking

yourself is why not? I guess. Now he's taking

his clothes off or something. I mean, we're trying

to explain this, this plot line here. I just,

yep. From the middle of the desert to a cell

door. So, so here's the trick. Anything that

makes sense, take it over to the side. Noted.

All right. Yeah, that's, that's going to be step

one. Oh, the Gorgon is crying. What is he doing

with his finger? Yeah, that's what she said.

Oh, no. Oh, no. We got rainbow colored machinery.

Yeah. Well, the Gorgon is strapped to a table

for some reason. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to be.

He's getting zapped. De -Gorgonified. Something.

What? That looks like a person. Wait. He's a

person now? Yeah, somehow he's a regular person

and he's denouncing someone. I'm so confused.

He just blew himself and everybody else up? That's...

His thumb radio. His thumb drive. Oh, we're in

space again. Yep. Is he going to turn into the

Hulk again? No, it's over. I'm so confused. Okay.

Well, folks, ladies and gentlemen, we just watched

the Marvel superheroes season one, episode three.

John, does that tie to the MCU or anything? You

know, it's, it's funny. And I, I'm really glad

for this particular one that there are no parallels

whatsoever. No tie. Oh man. No, anything other

than perhaps a familiar name, not even really

a familiar character. I guess the most on brand

character that we saw was maybe Thunderbolt,

you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. He,

uh, Mr. Thaddeus himself has the mustache and

is just, you know, overall a dick to everybody,

which is on brand for him. Yeah, for sure. So,

yeah, I, You know, the origins seems somehow

a bit different. This bomb going off, Rick Jones

being there and surviving and not getting any

sort of sort of the gamma feed off himself. Don't

understand. I'm so confused by that. And we've

got this Igor character that doesn't make any

sense. Apparently a double agent as he's in prison.

He's just talking to some other dude from his

thumb radio, from his thumb radio, the Gorgon,

but not the Gorgon that we recognize from, you

know, anything else. I guess something special

for this. Who's a bad guy, but maybe not really

a bad guy and launches himself with a missile.

And then, you know, they're going to space and

then he kills himself because he got healed of

his grossness. I don't know. Yeah. His sweet

potato hunchback of Notre Dame grossness. And

then immediately kills himself and everybody

else in the room. So, you know, I can't think

of any MCU parallels or tie -ins for any of those

stories. No, really? And by God, I am glad that

I cannot, because this is, of the ones of these

we've watched, this one, it leaves some things

to be desired, we'll say, in a nice way. Bars

so high you could trip over it. Yeah, yeah, correct.

In terms of comic book tie -ins and everything

else, getting away from the sanctity of our MCU,

why don't you talk to us a bit about that? Well,

remarkably, this one was also a single issue

adapted whole, which is kind of insane because

it's terrible. It didn't make any sense that

the ones that are kind of broken up is three

different comics and tried to match together.

Makes sense why they they're kind of all over

the place. This one just all over the place because

it's all over the place. We've got the sunset

trigger, which is an interesting, interesting

adaptation that they made for this. And I'm kind

of confused because these are the Xerox pages

still. We're still working within the Xerox pages.

And I thought I knew the Hulk. Apparently, the

Hulk used to transform with the sunrise and sunset.

So here we go. Yeah. Learn something new every

day. Yeah. Fun little tidbits. Gorgon, as you

mentioned, is not the inhuman that we're used

to. The one that I was kind of hoping to see

when I saw the name Gorgon on the episode. But

obviously this is a kind of monster of the week

type character. Beyond that, not much to pull

from from the comics. Obviously, these are directly

from comic books, as I mentioned. But it's it

doesn't doesn't have a lot of bearing on the

Hulk we know now. That being said. What'd you

think? Yeah. You know, these, these we've talked

about before that I'm sure we'll talk about more

as we work through this series of, of comic book

adaptations for the screen back from the sixties

are just, you know, kind of fun in a bad way.

There was definitely some laughs to be had here.

Some things, but I mean, this is, as you, as

you kind of mentioned is the most disjointed

of the stories that I've seen so far from these

stories. Not only did we have, like you said,

the sun and moon transformations for the Hulk,

which I have never seen in any other renderings

of Hulk stuff. The rage didn't appear to be there

at all. He was never angry with anybody. He just

talked weird. No, he was kind of chill. Walked

around. Otherwise, it was that. There's definitely

some laughs here. This one is almost because

it's that much worse. You know, you just have

to laugh. Why did he fly him to space? Well,

you know, what what was the motivation of grabbing

the Hulk and putting him in a jet and flying

him into outer space? Like he made he uses a

slave bullet, which is the dumbest thing I've

ever heard. And then, you know, makes, you know,

the Hulk and Rick Jones is, you know, his personal

lapdog and then flies him into space for some

reason. You know, and then, you know, he transforms

back as well. Can you help me transform back?

We didn't even realize there was something wrong

with you that you needed transforming from. But

we can and we did. And then you will go and kill

yourself and everybody for some reason. You know,

I it's just there. I have so many questions in

terms of plot. There was no plot, I guess, is

what I'm trying to get at. Fair. But there were

definitely some laughs. I mean. If you wanted

to pick one to skip watching, even if you could

find these, so far, this is going to be the one

that I would skip watching. This might be it.

Yeah, this might be the one. It's pretty bad.

It's him randomly changing pants mid -scene so

he could have those purple pants on to transform.

That was so good. It was something else, too.

Yeah, a funny little thing, but yeah, this is

definitely the worst one of these that I've seen,

at least thus far. Yeah, I do agree. Yeah, I'm

right there with you. That was awful. I mean,

from Sweet Potato Man to the Sunset Sunrise nonsense,

I'm very glad that Hulk has evolved. I would

not like the character in any way, shape, or

form if this were what he was today. Wow. And

man, their fast travel ability was something

else going from a room to the middle of the desert.

And people just there was absolutely no consistency

with location. It was wild. So, yeah, I'm with

you. This was hot garbage, but still I chuckled.

So, you know, if you can if you can find it,

expect the worst and laugh at it. That's all

I got. That's the best we can do. That's the

best anyone can do under these dire circumstances.

Working under these conditions. Oh, man. But

with that, ladies and gentlemen, I look forward

to the next. These are absurd. Absurdly great.

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