The Origin of Captain America / Wreckers Among Us / Enter Red Skull

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I'm so excited. Oh, look at those little TV warbles.

Love it. Oh, that's so good. Oh, Captain America

is throwing his mighty shield. Man. So exciting.

I used to sing this song all the time when I

was a kid. I still sing it to my kids. The red

and the white and the blue. Yeah. The origin

of Captain America. All rights reserved. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. There's tanks shooting at nothing

and battleships shooting at nothing. And then

sinking. Planes shooting at nothing. And a bunch

of topless dudes. Now I hear there's a certain

type of procedure you do when you go to the army

that they look at. We hear, we hear. And this

is an FDR. He's standing up. Mr. Anderson. All

right, now he's sitting again. He got tired.

The polio got him. Heading to the curio shop.

Got that old lady. These are civilian clothes,

in case you're wondering. A trench coat with

your collar up around your ears are civilian

clothes, in case anybody was wondering. She pulls

a gun on him immediately. Yeah, well. I would,

too, if a guy could walk in looking like that.

Those are casual clothes, man. Yeah, yeah, evidently.

Man, look at that. Look at that, like, hazmat

suit. Oh, the old lady is Agent R. Dun, dun,

dun. Her hair changed color, too. I know, it's

wild. That mask is really doing it all. That's

right. skinny steve about to drink his uh his

medicine get this get a picture of that man to

send to peggy real quick i like the i like the

injections better that we got with the film versus

him pounding this test tube of liquid drinking

a test tube this is borderline phallic to be

honest Drink the super soldier serum. Start glowing

red and having Professor X powers for a moment.

Don't give up. You're He -Man. Now he's ripped

and nipple -less. That's right. Side effects

may include. Yeah, nipples fall off. Loss of

nipples. I mean, I would take it. I would take

the super soldier serum if I looked like that

and my nipples fell off. To be fair. Yeah. For

sure. I'm going to put those back on there if

I need to. Heinz just shot Erskine. Yeah. I'll

stop that murderer. No, it's my job. Yeah. He

body slams him. I just got over this procedure,

but it's time for me to do stuff. I don't know

what he's doing with his hand right now. I know

you don't want to know. Don't run into the electrical

omniverse. And he's dead. He told him he did

try to save him. Well, transition. It's not going

to be from lack of trying to be more like you,

Steve, to be fair. Ain't that the truth? There

are going to be a lot that stem from him. Hell,

even Wolverine does, doesn't he? Does he? Uh

-huh. Weapon X program. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I thought you meant originally. I was like, I

think he's just a mutant, but OK. So Steve is

taking undercover as a private. Under Tommy Lee

Jones. Yeah, same character, kind of. Yeah, yeah,

yeah. Well. Sarge. Look how he's sweating. I'd

sweat if somebody was that close to my face,

too. Yeah, I don't like how close he was. That

makes me uncomfortable. Yeah, close talkers.

Close talkers be weird. Oh, man. Someone just

blew up a building. As one does. Captain America's

there to stop the saboteurs. Not through the

wall. Steep images coming through walls. Yeah.

There's no movement, just people getting beat

up by sound. Yeah. Oh, there's Bucky, the teenager

in the army. The Army's teenage mascot. I just

I just don't know what to do with that. There's

some interesting mascot history there, I'm sure.

I'm sure. Oh, oh, I hate to walk in on you changing,

Steve. Oh, you're a hero. Oops. I was careless.

I was careless. Changing into my superhero outfit

in this open tent. Right. I just... The flap

just going in the breeze. Now that I know your

secret, take me into battle with you. Okay. You

know, I'm a teenager that doesn't have any powers.

And he's shaking with his left hand. Does that

mean... Look at him go. After months of... He's

got a mask and everything. Listen, they covered

it. Months of intensive training. He's war ready.

Okay? He is. He is war ready after months of

training. Yeah, they even got him a little mask

for his eyeballs. More ready than the soldiers,

I'm sure. Holy rusted metal, Batman. His mask

covers less face than like a pair of glasses

would. It really does. It's pretty wild. Numbers

don't matter. Numbers don't matter. Numbers don't

matter where you can go. Scrat. Scrat. And fuck.

Yeah, Matthew, you're fucking everybody. Oh,

I miss visual sound effects. Oh, I know. I mean,

that's something we got to bring back. Yeah,

bring it back. Bring it back. Yeah, bring back

a good thwock. Oh, I'd love a good thwock. That

sounds dirty now that I say it. I'll tell you

what. Battleships are renowned for their ability

to not spot rafts full of TNT driving right at

them. Bright yellow rafts. Bright yellow rafts

full of explosives. Oh, didn't see it. It went

for room. It went for room. It's over. They win.

When Captain America sends a boat full of TNT.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There'll be a team as long

as the world needs us. And now for something

totally different. Yeah. It's air conditioned.

I could go for some air conditioning right now.

So we're going to Santos. Santos hypnotism show.

From the battlefront to this hypnotist show.

I don't get it. As one does. He's like crystal

balling over this kid's big bald head. I don't

think it's a kid. Oh, yeah. Well, it makes it

weirder. It's a short person. Vertically challenged.

Very, very large head. Maybe that's his mascot.

Oh, boy. Oh, man. Now we're uncomfortably close

to his face. His eyes are spinning. And it's

a take from the beginning of the show. It's a

take from scene one. Shooting at nothing again.

Shooting different areas. Oh, they're dead. They

got blown up this time. Wow. Bummer. Sucks to

be them. Fort LaHaye. LaHaye? Supposed to be

Camp LaHaye. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Putting you

behind the wheel, the enemy don't need no saboteurs.

Man, that guy's just got some feelings. He's

involved in an important army project. Seems

important. It's it seems like a project. Mm hmm.

That guy's like tapping tobacco into his hat.

It did look that way. Yeah. That's what he's

doing. Yeah. Well, they're going to the theater.

Well, Steve has to see Sando and Omar. Well,

of course. Project must not be that important.

Yeah, he's got plenty of time to go over here

and do this to catch a flick. Come on, Steve.

No interviewers. Oh, oh, that girl is just slipping

into the dressing room. That girl. Something's

afoot. That girl reporter. He's just wearing

his costume under the. Oh, man. Oh, man. It's

so good. It's so good. Oh, we got, is the bridge

going to blow up? Omar has seen a bridge. I feel

like, I think things blow up when Omar shouldn't

look at things. They blow up. That's the power.

You mean it's not magic? It's a projector. Well,

I feel like too. Crazy. It's a shame nobody looked

up the entire time. Yeah, the entire time. Yeah,

I mean, those big projectors are kind of renowned

for having like a very bright bulb -like. And

super, super quiet all the time, too. Yeah, right.

Oh, he got Sandow by the collar. Yeah, got him

by the scruff. Splat. Oh, man, he splatted. Oh,

the female reporter. A girl's voice. Or the woman

reporter. A damsel in distress. Oh. For a second,

I thought it was Bucky. Everyone's got Tommy

guns. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone put that on your snark

bingo card, man. We hit a Tommy gun trying to

get out. Yeah. Thanks for telling us she's a

special agent. Yeah, that's special agents are

really known for their being like I'm a special

agent right when they get caught. That's how

they do. Why are you standing like that? He takes

his orders from the Red Skull. You know, we don't

question those things. Yeah. I'm going to start

talking to people like that. So he was putting

tobacco in his head. Now he's smoking it. He

was. He was. And then the Red Skull is standing

very strangely behind him. Now look at his hand.

Zoidberg hand. Oh, it is weird. Think about the

goofiest version of Red Skull you can imagine.

That's what that's what it is. Boy. Yeah, y 'all

got to go check the site because I'll have pictures.

He's something else. Look at how he's holding

that gun. He's gassing Major Corey, making him

lose his memory for months. Months. Months. I

had a special forgetting gas. Why is Steve standing

like that? I know. Everyone stands so weird.

Captain America days. Oh, we got a twang and

a boing. And now Bucky is doing circus things.

He's doing circus. Oh, the special agent whacked

a guy. Whacked. He's shooting by not looking.

Yep. 360, no scope, noobs. Hey, reusing assets

over here. Not bothering to shoot below the shield.

Nope. Boy. Now you'll die. He lowered his shield.

Now he gets to, like, dude, just shoot him. Quit

talking about it. Just so good. Seems everybody's

out. Everybody's incapacitated because they,

you know, are terrible. Agent 13. We know her.

We do. That's a one Sharon Carter, that is. I'm

going to check out Major Corey. Oh, well, everyone's

checking out Major Corey. He doesn't have his

memory. What is his project? Who knows? They

just keep saying his special project. Oh, there's

Ministry of Silly Walks over here once again.

Dumping all the cash on the ground instead of

tables. As you do. Oh, Bucky's been captured

for the second time this episode. Maybe you don't

take teenagers into war. That's right. Maybe.

He collected a valuable fish. Knock, knock. Oh.

He did one punch and knocked out like eight guys.

That was pretty good. But of course, Skull escapes.

Yeah. Well, luckily, he's got a solid steel secret

door behind the wallpaper on that wall. Yeah,

it makes perfect sense. That's what I would do

if I was a bad guy. Obviously. Oh, the list.

General Curtis, Captain America. He's making

a list. Checking it twice. It's so good. I do

love that Major Corey was crossed off on there.

Yeah, I got him. Mr. Maxson of Masked Aircrafts.

Giant plane. Adjectives. Planes on fire. Planes

on fire. Not great. Yeah, not a great test for

the weapons manufacturers. Really, really not

what you want. Seems like hammer tech. It's going

down. It's taking forever to go. Right. A little

plug. Freaking hammer. Get a plug in. It went

really, really high up there. Yeah, and that's

three seconds from takeoff. Oh, another silly

stance. Yep. Every time we see a silly stance,

we're taking a shot. Oh, we will be plastered.

I'm dead already. Mr. Maxson, he's smiling. Yeah,

he's happy that his plane crashed. I wonder why.

I mean, the engine caught fire, Bucky. Mm hmm.

We saw it too. We saw it look on his face. Yeah.

Your deducers are good at deducing. E. Someone

hit an E. Sleep gas. Sleep gas. I'm glad he labels

all of his gas canisters. Right. Right. So Skull's

back and he has used a sleep gas on some lady.

Some lady. And some dude. He's also got a Luger.

And he rolled his R on the Red Skull. Uh -oh.

And he's been clopped. Yep. Like a horse's hoof,

he's been clopped. Oh, so Mixer Maxim was on

the plane and Skull was dressed up as him? That

is some pretty good costume technology Skull's

got there. Well, look how silly his outfit is

now. He escaped because of the Tommy Guns. The

Tommy Guns saved the day yet again. Oh, there's

the list again. His hit parade. Cap is next on

his hit parade. Oh, peeling potatoes. Boil them,

mash them, stick them in a stew. Stop breathing

when I'm talking to you. Steps in the bowl of

potatoes. A very obvious bowl of potatoes and

falls down and is now going to be mad at Steve.

As one does. I wonder how much the enemy's paying

for him to be on our side. Wow. Oh, man. I love

Steve's just feigning incompetence the whole

time. Beautiful. Right. So. We just got done

watching season one, episode one of the Marvel

superheroes. John, how does that fit in the MCU?

Oh, boy. Well, have I got some great news for

you. It doesn't. Oh, whoa. Yeah. Who knew? Yeah.

And, you know, I would be kind of upset if it

did, to be honest. We have some pretty absurd

things here. A disjointed story. A little. Almost

mockeries of of characters that we are pretty

familiar with. Oh, boy. You know, and it's funny

because I know and you'll expand on this a little

bit more. I know this is kind of the actual origin

of Bucky, but man, I'm glad that they decided

to do it a different way in the MCU. The MCU

is so much more interesting than the teenager.

So much better every day. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah.

MCU. Not so much, but. Comics, on the other hand,

I know there's a plethora because, you know,

this is that in television form. Why don't you

tell us about that? Well, yeah, the comics are

actually straight up Xerox pages from this show.

So if you do, if you are able to find it, then

you get to see just what is essentially just

we'll call them, quote unquote, animated pages

of comic books. And it's it's pretty comical,

pun intended. But yeah. So the comic roots for

this story, at least the the origin of Captain

America, the pages that were scanned were actually

from the retelling of the story in 1965. So these

aren't even the original pages. So this was the

Tales of Suspense number 63. And the original,

of course, was Captain America number one, 1941

by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby. Then we've got the

second part of that disjointed story is called

The Wreckers Among Us with Sando and Omar. And

that was from Tales of Suspense number 64. Those

are essentially lifted straight off the page.

Very little changes there. And then the one that

was just a wild ride with the Red Skull at the

end there with Mr. Maxon and everything. That

was from Tales of Suspense number 65 in 1965.

The Red Skull Strikes. So Maxson was in a mask.

He was he was killed and he was on the plane.

I it was a very confusing ending. I'd actually

love to go back and read that comic and see if

I can make sense of that story, because that's

what they call it. The tales of suspense, I say.

Yeah, I was in suspense. But as you mentioned,

Bucky was certainly a little change from the

comics. The 1940s and 1960s version of Bucky

have evolved a bit. But John, what did you think?

I mean, I mean, right. Yeah, it's just, you know,

it's it's funny enough, not the first time that

I've seen this and I'm not mad about it. I continue

to enjoy it. It's so absurd. But it's also really,

really cool to see, like the actual legitimate

origins. you know, from, you know, as you said,

Xerox directly from comic books onto the screen,

you know, so to speak, uh, is, is really neat.

It's fun. It's funny. You know, I laughed watching

it the first time this time, all the times. Um,

and yeah, I said, this one might be a little

harder one for, for everyone to find, but if

you do, it's, it's definitely worth it to, to

follow along, you know, these, these, uh, these

shows from the sixties, you know, we're doing

them in packs of three. Uh, but I mean, they're

a little, six, seven minute slots that came through.

It's interesting. to say the least. I'm glad

that we've made the changes as time is going

on. You could definitely tell the age of these,

not just from the actual art and, you know, movement

on the screen or lack thereof, but also just,

you know, we talked a little bit about Bucky,

but also Cap and, you know, and Red Skull looked

utterly absurd. So we see a lot of these things

kind of grow, but it is interesting to go back

and kind of see the roots or at least sort of

part of the roots, even if this was a retelling.

which I didn't realize I learned something new

today too. This was a retelling of the original.

So, um, but yeah, it is definitely, definitely

interesting. Definitely worth it. Uh, not good,

but great because it's hilarious. You know what

I mean? Like absolutely. So, uh, yeah, that's

me. How about yourself? Uh, I mean, I'm, I'm

pretty much in the same boat and I, I gotta say,

I just love, I both love and hate. Old comic

book speech, how they have to explain everything.

And it just to see it put on screen just makes

you really realize how ridiculous it is. And

it's just it's just it's a joy. Absolutely. You

know, pushing a braille raft full of dynamite

toward a submarine to blow it up is just I mean,

that's that's comics gold. You can't you can't

write that anymore. It doesn't exist anymore.

And it's just I love it. It's stupid. But yeah,

all in all, good time. And I look forward to

the next. Absolutely. We'll see you all there.

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