Double Cross

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of Stark Industries. Telling you, that guy. That

guy. They plugged Sand Monster in again. Treat

yo self. But you'll get pictures. Pictures of

Spider -Man. Oh, man. That kills me. Yeah, that's

so funny. Whoopsie. Wait, I thought she quit.

Yeah, how is she back? Fair point. She did. Treating

herself. Mm -hmm. Oh. Yep. Confirmed. Well, we

saw that because we have keen eyes. That's right.

Paying attention. Though we did not notice it

was raining. That's true. That's because nothing

was wet other than his hat. Oh. That seemed harsh.

Oh, they're back again. Sure you do. Wow. They

didn't do it. Well, not yet. Sorry Really doesn't

look like wool Porter So that meeting really

just did everything wrong. Yeah. It's reaction

to that drink. That's a name we know. Who do

we think it is? Is it Winston or is it Cat? Those

are my two guesses right now. Yeah, I need more

information on Winston. Yeah, he does not like

that whiskey, whatever it is. It's below his

standard. Yeah. Don't wink at me. Did they apologize?

I don't know. How was she just there? This is

what I need answered. Yeah, she quit last episode.

Like very prominently. We're out. Enhance. Enhance.

In a different spot, too. Give everybody a different

location. Yeah. Know where your money's going.

He's such a smart feller. He's a smart fella.

That's a big ass spider. It is. If that were

to scale. I'm just vibing to this song. I'm digging

it. Yeah. So it looks like we're going to get

electro at some point. Yeah. I want to. I mean,

I hope so. I want to see the lizard. Give me

everyone. See Doc Ock in this world. I'm hoping

this show does well enough to spawn a second

season. Second season, yeah. Yeah. Well, that's

something they would already announce by now.

All the episodes are out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We

must detect. We must do our best Ben Reilly and

detect. Can't read it when you wave around like

that, kid. Well, they're not supposed to read

it until after they pay him. You're not a businessman,

I tell you. Man, those are some green walls.

They're so limpy. Oh, he's making old guy noises.

Same, to be fair. Dude, I can't with this man.

God, he's just sitting there staring at the wall.

Yeah. Give the man a book. A couple of raps around

that a wife beat her on. Hospitals are weird.

Yeah. No. Health. Hashtag health. Yeah, right?

Jones. Never trust that guy. Yeah. Oh, he got

shot in the butt. Is he going to peel his hot

dog again? You'll have to watch him eat a hot

dog again. Yeah. Jesus. There'll be no end to

the level of upset I am if they don't address

why she's back at work. Yeah, yeah, same. And

that mustard on his lip really bothering me.

Well, we already have established that he eats

hot dogs like a maniac. Yeah, yeah, I just haven't

gotten over it yet. Language. Oh, man. Yeah.

Yeah. Wow. Get over here. Oh, yeah. There you

go. Man. Oh, Lonnie. Lonnie. We know that name.

Hell yeah. Yeah. He's turning into something.

Oh. Tombstone up in the house. We figured he

had something going on. Yeah. Cool to see it

go down. Of course, the largest man I've ever

seen has the block stuff powers. Yeah. The tank

powers. It's like Ben Grimm getting the rock.

Yeah. Robbie's just doing it. Oh. Back to back.

It looks a little like Mario. Wow. Yeah, exactly

like that. No one even knows what that means,

dude. Yeah, right? I got sleeping on the road.

Be serious right now. Oh, man. Wow. Try to pull

one over on a private investigator. It feels

like you're asking to be found. Yes. Rude. Oh,

see, I was right. I'm a smut merchant. He's just

a creeper. Nope. He's thinking about her singing

for a second. She's my wife. Yeah. Never good

when someone asks you that. Yeah. Tell me about

your back door. Slightly different question.

Right. I won't say no. Brother, what are you

doing? Nick, come here. Sit down. Let's have

a talk. Let's discuss some of your choices. Okay.

Wow. Get out. Come on, man. Also, I do want to

point out that I noticed her room number was

room 337. Spider -Man 337 is her Sinister Six

comic. How about that? Plugged. He can take it

away. He's Sandy. Doesn't look good. No one's

dressed like that just in their house. I mean,

different era. Who knows, man? That's fair. Some

people walk around peeling hot dogs, so maybe

they do dress like that in their house. You can't

trust a person. No. Especially not one that behaves

like that in public. I'll see myself out. Man.

Okay. Yeah. Investigating things. Dude, what?

Looking for some cheese. That is a very small

man. Yeah, see? Well, he has some suspicions.

Yes, he does. It's not clear who he thinks, but

he does have some suspicions. Yeah. Check the

mark bills. What's your magnifying glass? Okay.

Yeah. What a weird thing that just happened.

Lonnie Lincoln. Good old tombstone. That's awesome.

Yeah. Can I borrow your darkroom? Yeah. Well,

back in the day, you know, when you wanted a

picture taken. It's wild to think you needed

a room in your house just for. Picture development.

Yeah, get to work, Robbie. While you're at it,

explain to me why Janet's there. You can never

get into it. Oh. I have a plan. I didn't sell

on peanuts on the street. There's nothing wrong

with some good street peanuts. The unfortunate

part is we're going to have to watch him eat

them. Let's see how he eats these. Can't wait

to see how he ruins my day with this. Not entirely

sure he shelled that first. No, he ate a whole

peanut. Shell and all. That's what happened.

Without a doubt. That's what he did. Barely taller

than that, dude. I know. X -Tree, X -Tree. Meh.

Why do I have to see him eating so much? Yeah.

I didn't sign up for a Nick Cage ASMR food show.

Point your fry at me. I don't know. It's her

fry. Point my fry at me. Thousand bucks back

then. What do we determine? Thirty bucks was

like seven hundred dollars. Damn. Yeah. I'm pretty

sure that's basically the same as like the Vanderbilt

Mansion. Equivalent number of wealth. Thousand

dollars. You set me up for life. And we're good.

Right. Hey, green spot. That's a real whiskey.

Yeah, I sell it, but he doesn't make the same

face that no silvermane did. You'd be surprised.

Oh, man. Damn. Sick burn. Yeah. Well, he's gonna.

Knock it back. Well, luckily, he's not going

to check that door again for the rest of the

day. Really risky. Yeah. Who's this fool? That's

not Jameson. Wow. Yes, looks like a wiener dog,

kind of. watch out Nick Cage might peel him oh

man gosh wow Do we know why he was let go? I

don't remember him discussing it. Was it because

the spider retired and he wasn't as hot? Yeah,

he couldn't bring the pictures of Spider -Man

anymore. Yeah. Damn. That's a move if you're

trying to get your own desk back. Yeah, right?

Find it around you, Frankie. There you go. Just

get dressed right there in the street. Not even

find a phone booth. Where's his coat? Or is it

that tight? That didn't look like he was wearing

one. No, he's in stealth mode right now. That's

right. We got stealth spider up in here. Yep.

No one else walked out that door the entire rest

of the day. Yep. Yep. Certainly didn't wonder,

why isn't this shutting? Or the wind didn't blow

it open. Yeah, nothing. Nah, that's fun. So I'm

not sure if he knows how lights work. Right.

It's kind of cool to see just the eyes, though,

even if it is nonsense. Yeah. Yeah, it's a fun

visual, but. Yeah. You turn lamps on your eyeballs.

Not only can you not see because of the light,

also everyone can see you. Right. Take this packet

of Cracker Jacks. I'm relying on you, Frankie.

Stand here and drink orange juice. See, he leaves

always webbing around. Yeah. I don't know. No

question that he's going to be there. Yeah. Yeah.

A lot of iterations say the webbing dissolves

after some time, but clearly that one he put

on the lock didn't dissolve all day. So all that

web that he just used in that room will still

be there come morning. Yeah, exactly. His benticles

picking locks. I've always liked Spider -Man

for stealth missions. This kit's well suited

for it. Yeah. It's interesting that it would

typically warns him of danger, but I suppose

it could key in. Well, none of it makes sense.

It's like he's having an old man headache every

time it happens. Right. He grabs the back of

his neck. Are these unmarked? Is that what he's

looking for? He needs... No, he needs the thousand

dollars to give to Mrs. Addison. Yeah. That guy

is such a dolt. Yeah. I think it was the wind.

Oh, man. The boss told us to bring him back.

He has little PJs on, no shoes. Oh, look, a spider

web. Afraid of monsters under the bed. I'm checking

under the bed. Should check above the bed, I

think. Yeah, he's on the scene. Yeah, without

a doubt. Luckily, he's got one of those beds

that has like got the weird curtains around it

so he can do that. So, yeah, he just wouldn't

stole $1 ,000 from him to pay off an informant.

Yeah, man, his morals in this show are not super

impressive to this point. They are sus, for sure.

That's a rad dress. The color, the green and

gold. That's cool. Why were you just in here

in the dark, bro? Creeper. Oh, hey -o. Yeah,

that ain't her bodyguard. That's her bodyguard,

if you know what I'm saying. Does a bit more

than guard it. Yeah, he's touching it. Oh, lots

of stuff has happened. No, you won't. It can't.

No. Well, that doesn't sound like a great deal.

I mean. Good relationships aren't built off ultimatums.

Yeah, sure, sure. But if she said, I mean, she

seems like she's afraid for her life. Which sounds

like she should be. He's turning into sand. She's

making out with a sand monster. For a second,

it looked like it was an absorbing man thing.

No, he's absorbing something. Yeah. No, I'm a

sand. There might be a spider suit back there.

Yeah, that's where he stashed his second suit.

Behind that wall. Or did he just punch a hole

in the wall? That's so crazy. Right. I mean,

she seems to accept you for it, man. Yeah. You

stood there in the dark this whole time and waited

for her. Now I got punched a hole in her wall

and ran away. What a ride. What's he going to

do? You're putting that kid in very real danger,

Ben. Yeah. Like. Yeah, that's a that's pretty

wild. Sand monster and tomb monster. Sounds like

Jameson. Yeah, I think that's supposed to still

be the vibe. There's something about that woman's

face. It's scary. No, please don't eat anything

else. He's it's constant. I've never seen somebody

eat so much in shows. I don't think that's like

his third meal of the day. Yeah, it's pretty

wild. He is a hungry spider. Yeah. I've got a

hole in my wall. Or lose your nose. Or do ya?

Must not be bankrolling them anymore. Yeah. I

got a new donor for my second campaign. Yeah.

Big Pharma. Oh, my gosh. Thank you so much. That

was pretty good. Look at all those hat boxes.

On the double. She's ready to get out of here.

Mm -hmm. Got him. Fancy talk. Oh, Ben. why are

you doing those finger things Winston that was

a little weird I didn't care for that I was just

going to say, they're just going to leave her

bags. Then he gets his gun out and pokes her

with it and then puts it back in his pocket.

What a move. Just so you know, I have this. See?

Then puts it back away. Boy, that mirror looks

very, very fake. Yeah, and ridiculously small.

Yeah. Well, to each his own, right? Yeah. Man,

suicide doors. That's a thing that needs to come

back. You can get them on luxury imports. Needs

to come back for the common folk. Hmm. Spit in

his face. Do it. No, she's not trying to die.

He always knew. He had to market as Winston,

right? Yeah. He likes him the least, I think.

Yeah. Got him. That's so messed up. Yeah. That's

not a good guy, but he's going to get him killed.

Like that's what's happening right now. Yeah.

I mean. And there it is. And Winston's gone.

Wow. really I'm an old man oh oh shit what well

well there's a cliffhanger so the last one didn't

end up oh man yeah that one did that's rough

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Snark Industries podcast. I'm John. And I'm Remy.

And we invite you to join us as we work our way

through every Marvel TV show, movie, and crossover.

Meaning if there's a Marvel character on screen,

it's fair game. All categorized in the temporal

order of their setting. By the time we're done,

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timeline of the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe.

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and enjoy this episode of Snark Industries. Hello,

ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Snark

Industries Deep Dive. We just got finished watching

Spider Noir, Episode 3, Double Cross. John, what

was that about? So, continuing on from episode

two, Janet's back to work without any explanation

whatsoever and is in the office with Ben at the

beginning talking with Robbie as they're trying

to figure out sort of what's going on. They are

able to piece together all the bits and bobs

that we did from the last episode on our own,

expert detectives that we are, that this third

giant man that confronted Robbie in the slums

is also part of this platoon picture. with the

other two, with Addison and with Marco. So they

kind of get that together and assume that he

is somehow related. Robbie goes looking for him.

Meanwhile, Silvermane comes in himself to Riley's

office with a couple of goons and has a job for

him. Tells his goons to apologize to Janet and

they never show if they do or not, which is another

strange Janet moment. Janet just leaves a lot

of questions, not a lot of answers. Maybe that's

supposed to be part of her character. I don't

know. She's the linchpin of all of them. Yeah,

correct. Silvermane and Riley go back into his

office, have a talk. He wants him, or Silvermane

wants Riley to figure out who this rat is that

has A, hired Addison to burn down his house,

and B, who has tipped off the cops about this

raid that happened the, well, assumed not the

night before. Some time must have passed. For

all of these things that have happened, but from

the last episode at the very least. So they begin

working both sort of both ends at once, going

towards the same kind of goal. Ben goes and tries

to pretend to be some sort of. federal officer

of some kind with a even worse than normal voice.

His accent gets worse with every character he

does. Yeah. Yeah. That one was just really something

to behold. So, and he goes and questions the

cops that were part of that raid that were injured

in the raid. And ultimately going through them

all figures out that the direct, the order came

directly from the mayor himself. And so Ben sort

of in his own head puts together from that point.

The connections and everything else that the

mayor and the connection that he would bring

that would have all this sort of lineup would

be Kat. But he doesn't want to say it just yet

because also she hired him to do stuff as well.

And finding Marco, which he also still hasn't

done. Then we cut over to Robbie, who is back

in the slums trying to find this giant man again

from the picture. And as he's asking around,

the cops do a big raid on this entire area and

start beating people up. And this giant man pops

out. And we find out here, finally, that this

is Lonnie, a .k .a. Tombstone. Yeah. Who pops

out and starts defending everyone else around.

And we see sort of a sort of roaring this like

scaly, hardened skin. And it's definitely, you

know, throwing some punches around, doing a lot

of stuff. And then lo and behold, here comes

Flint. outside of one of the little hovels as

well. And so we have Tombstone and Sandman sort

of standing shoulder to shoulder defending these

people of the slum against these cops that are

just beating everyone up for no reason. Not really

sure what's going on there, but just cops doing

bad cop stuff, I guess. Maybe a trope, maybe

something specific. Not really clear, but they're

out there doing it. In the meantime, Robbie.

Being the excellent reporter he is, begins taking

a lot of pictures of all of this stuff that is

happening. So we have that kind of running on

in the background as Ben goes to see Silvermane

at his place, kind of tells him he knows who

it is, kind of hints at it, but he's got to find

proof. He then gums up the door to Silvermane's

balcony. Yeah, that was ridiculous. And he's

got a very specific reason because he's also.

As he's doing all this investigation, went and

saw Addison's widow himself, who confirmed to

him that it was Kat in a manner of speaking.

But she would go tell Silverman herself because

she thought it could get her some more money.

Obviously, we have her living that treat yourself

life still and says that lobster in clothes.

That's right. And says that if Ben can get her

a thousand dollars, which we decided was infinity

dollars in today's money. Yeah. Yeah. that she

would take her information and just simply walk

away. And of course, as we've seen in the episodes

thus far, Ben is broke and doesn't have a thousand

dollars to give her. But lucky for him, he's

got this gummed up door that's part of this plan.

So he goes in spider costume and all in the middle

of the night to Silvermane's home by going into

this gummed up door. We see a little stealth

mission. We get to see kind of a cool, although

very impractical and not at all how things would

work, lights in his eyes, which does make for

some cool, like I said, some aesthetically pleasing

scenes. But in reality, putting flashlights in

your eyes means you just would be blind. So we

do get to see him go in there. He steals $1 ,000

out of Silvermane's safe and gets away unnoticed

to go back and pay off. Addison's widow so that

she will simply walk away from all of it. As

he does so, we see Winston down in the car below

who has been tailing him, see him leave the hotel

where she's staying and sees her packing up her

suitcases. He puts two and two together and goes

up to get her to get the information. Meanwhile,

Ben gets a invitation from the mayor himself

to go and talk. But all these things have happened.

Invitation. Yeah. Yeah. It's a forced invitation.

The muscle comes and picks him up. The mayor's

muscle, which is a whole different can of worms

to open. Yeah, right. But brings him in and basically

tells him, you know, like, what's going on? The

spider's here. You used to always get these great

pictures of the spider. What's going on with

that? And, you know, Silvermane clearly, you

know, and. Ben confronts him directly and says,

you know, so didn't Silvermane fund your first

campaign? But clearly the mayor has had a change

of heart or a change of who's lining his pockets

and is wanting to go after this guy. So. As that's

happening, we also have Robbie going back to

my brain stopped working for a second. What's

it called? What's the newspaper? Oh, the Daily

Bugle. The Daily Bugle. Yes. Wow. I want to say

Daily Planet. That's a whole different person.

Yeah. The Daily Bugle. Robbie goes back there

with these pictures that he's developed from

this scene in the hovel or in the slums with

Sandman and Tombstone and all the cops and everything

else. And kind of wants to get his old job back.

Kind of wants to write this story and, you know,

doesn't get the job back, but is given permission

to get the story put together and everything

else. But we see. The next day comes around and

the story is told in an entirely different way.

They used his pictures, they used his name, but

they changed the story to where these two monsters

were attacking people and the brave people of

New York's police department saved them, which

is obviously not what happened. We know that.

So he's kind of going on about that. Meanwhile,

the stage is set for all of this stuff to happen.

And we see Kat, who has just left. Her place

to leave the city because she had a run in as

Sandman was hiding in her apartment in the dark

until she got home. They had an exchange. They

obviously are lovers of some kind. And then he

starts to sand out and then punches a hole in

her wall and just leaves. It's a very rushed,

abrupt scene for all that play out where he just

assumes that she won't want him like that. But

then she never gives any indication that that's

true. And there's no resolution to that whatsoever,

at least at this point. He just simply leaves.

So we have her going to the train station to

get out of here. We have Ben, who has paid off

the widow. We have Winston, who has grabbed the

widow. Then Ben goes to grab Kat from the train

station. And in doing so, Winston comes there

and grabs both of them to turn them both into

Silvermane. So many moving pieces. That is a

lot of, yeah, there was a lot of threads kind

of coming together at once. And honestly, it's

a really good, making for a really good mystery

story, which is kind of in the vein of what Spider

Noir is all about. So I'm here for that energy.

Sure, sure. So they show up and they're all there.

The widow and cat and Ben all being sort of accused

by Winston to Silvermane. who has already dug

a grave in the ground, ready to put somebody

in it. While he's out there doing that himself.

I doubt he dug it. But, well, yeah. But you know

what I mean. His two dumb ones. Yeah, he's got

goons for that. But it's his order that's doing

it, is what I'm getting at. Yeah, for sure, for

sure. So then we kind of have all this unfolding.

You know, Winston has the smoking gun. He's got

the widow who says it's Kat. He's got Kat and

Ben together at the train station. And more importantly.

He's got the thousand dollars in the widow's

possession that he can show was paid. Oh, he

was so proud of himself. He was so proud. But

what he didn't plan on and what we didn't see

until this moment is that kind of a common thread

that has been running through all of this is

that Silvermane marks his bills. Yeah. And he

does that to keep tabs on people on his payroll,

people that work for him. uh very intelligent

you know obviously and he's and silvermane has

been built up to being this sort of crime boss

uh so it's good to see that sort of being played

into but what we didn't know is when ben stole

the thousand dollars he marked it to be winston's

money and he could do that because he got a dollar

from winston that time who was making fun of

him effectively for being so bent on money being

the sort of motivator for his decision making.

And so now it appears by all reason, as Silverman

didn't realize that his safe had been robbed,

that the money in fact came from Winston and

he immediately just shoots him into the grave.

He then turns to Ben and we have this big climactic

sort of ending here. He then turns to Ben and

says, how good are you with a shovel? Cause we're

going to need another grave and you see him pull

the trigger, but it's not clear who he pulls

it off. So not only is Winston dead, but somebody

else is, or at least injured. Not sure. Yeah.

We just saw pulled up, you know, a fire, a fired

shot. We don't know what's coming next. Uh, man,

like, like I'm still kind of jittery about it.

It was like, just to watch that, you know, uh,

and, and move right into this of like, all right,

who was it? And I'm not, and I'm, and I'm being,

a good host here and not looking ahead as all

these episodes are out. So I can definitely go

find out, but I haven't done it because I want

to see it in real time with all of you fine people.

And of course with you, really, so we can figure

this out together. And, uh, but yeah, man, I

like, I honestly like, you know, I can't imagine

who it could be, but anyway, we'll, we'll, we'll

talk a little bit more about that when we get

to the, the, the thoughts and feelings and everything.

But, uh, just real briefly, uh, kind of going

through. All the important bits that we do here

on our deep dive. MCU tie -ins, same story. It's

its own universe. Outside of the characters themselves,

not really a whole lot of tie -ins. Well, not

any tie -ins at all. Honestly, not even really

a whole lot, but not any at all. Other than just

seeing sort of somewhat familiar faces in terms

of character names. And it's clear even then,

a lot of them have been... I mean, even Tombstone

being introduced here. It's good to see his power

set. isn't really what Tombstone's power set

is very different. Yeah. It's almost like he's

grown this like carapace, almost like a beetle

or something over his skin, which is, which is

a, yeah, a very strange thing, but that's what

they decided to do, which is fine. Like I said,

cause this is standalone and, and you know, it's,

it's a blessing and a curse that it's a standalone.

It's a blessing in that, you know, none of this

stuff really matters so they can kind of do what

they want, but it's also a curse in that. None

of it ties in, which is kind of the reason we're

making a timeline. Speaking of which, and I feel

like it's going to be kind of a similar MO here,

but talk to us about any kind of comic book stuff

for this episode. With the introduction of Lonnie

in this one, we did get at least a little bit

more comic history. We also got the Bugle. Officially,

we got to be in the Bugle, which is cool. No

Jameson, which is odd because he was a large

part of the Spider Noir 2009 series. I thought

it was really kind of amusing that Robbie is

essentially begging for his job at the Bugle

when in the comics he ultimately runs the Bugle.

He ultimately takes it over. So it's kind of

funny to see him at the very, I mean, below the

bottom rung of the Bugle. So, yeah, that's kind

of a fun juxtaposition that they've put him in.

As far as as Easter eggs and things that we noticed,

there wasn't a whole lot. Although I did in the

watch party notice that Cat's Door was 337, which

I did look up. And it is, in fact, a Sinister

Six comic. So kind of fun that in the introduction

of Lonnie and we've got Sandman and we've got,

you know, Addison was there. And I feel like.

Probably not the last one we'll see because we

do see someone very electric. I can only assume

Electro in the intro, in the credits. So I assume

that we're kind of, if not building the entire

Sinister Six, at least some of it, which is kind

of cool. So that 337 I don't think was accidental.

Yeah, that's a good Easter egg spot. Yeah, for

sure. Can't be that that number came to them

randomly. No, no, that feels very, very intentional.

And I wonder now if I haven't seen it, just didn't

notice in the first two episodes and just this

is the one I saw it in, because if it's been

there the entire time, that's been giving us

a clue as to what we're building toward, perhaps.

Very true. Very true. But yeah, as far as a comic

tie ins and Easter eggs, that's. Pretty close

to all I saw. I mean, like you mentioned, Tombstone's

abilities were very different. And to that effect,

Sandman's abilities are pretty different as well.

He hasn't done much beyond just turn into human.

Getting sandy and punching stuff. Yeah. Right.

So he's, you know, stronger and hard to, you

know, I'm sure he's bulletproof or not bulletproof,

but we'll probably go right through him. But

we haven't really seen him do anything that.

your typical Sandman would. So I'm curious to

see if we're actually going to see some of that,

which would be really neat. No giant sandstorm

with a green and white stripy shirt on. That's

what I'm waiting for. Oh, I want that so badly.

I need that in my life. So episode three, what'd

you think? So honestly, this show continues to

impress me. Now I will say I have a real moral

problem with them just casually putting Janet

back into her position without me so bad. After

they had her big walkout scene last episode where

she says, I'm leaving and I'm not coming back.

And then just for her to be, I mean, literally

the very first scene of this episode. She's just

not only there, but just working. Casually there.

Doing her job. They don't mention it at all.

The entire episode. He's fixing her desk. It's

wild. Like, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah. It's just

like they just ignored that that scene ever happened.

So that is a continuity error, in my opinion,

that is. Pretty, pretty egregious. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, like at the end of the day, it doesn't

really, you know, dent the actual story that

they're building. But still, I mean, Janet's

obviously one of the major characters that they

put into it. Yeah. I mean, one line could have

fixed it. Yeah. A single throwaway line. Easy.

Yeah. Just something just to where it's not as

if that never happened. Anyway. Outside of that

one, in my opinion, glaring issue, I really,

really like this episode. It's been my favorite

of the three so far that we've done. Oh, wow.

Nice. You know, sort of seeing the buildup, sort

of having a cool powered fight scene, you know,

in the slums here, I thought was really neat.

And more importantly than all that, the mystery

that they are building to sort of point all these

things together. And like all these threads that

we talked about as I was going through the synopsis

and everything too, like. seeing all that kind

of come together at the end. And then we, we

got, you know, he shot somebody, who did he shoot?

You know, like it's, it's, it's one of those

things. It's just, man, that was a really well,

well paid off cliffhanger. Yeah. Correct. Yeah.

I mean, it's, yeah, it's, it's really, I am fully

invested at this point. You know, I really liked

this episode a lot. I said, I did have one major

issue, but all the other stuff in it, I think

in my opinion, for me makes up for the difference.

Yeah. In terms of storytelling and everything

else now, I still can't get over Nick Cage and

his accents and the way he eats food in the show.

But that's just a him thing. It's constant. Yeah.

I mean, he ate a peanut with a shell on it, you

know, in this episode and peeled a hot dog in

the last one. I can't with this man. I can't

with this man. I guess, yeah. But in terms of

storyline, in terms of what the show was doing,

really, really well done. I, you know. I'm asking

myself questions because, you know, you know,

and these people may not, but they're going to

now. I'm a sucker for mystery. I love mystery

and crime stuff, you know, in terms of storytelling

and things like that. So seeing that happen here

and I really like I'm not sure who we shot, you

know, like, you know, a lot of times I pride

myself on figuring these things out in real time.

And it's when it's these mysteries type stories.

But, man, I really don't know. But, you know,

I have I have good arguments in my head for everybody.

You know, he shot himself. That's maybe I don't

know. So, yeah, no, it's solid. I can't wait

to continue going here. No major complaints minus

the major complaints that I've already had. Yeah,

for sure. Yeah. How about yourself? I absolutely

agree. The Janet thing was like it was a little

wild to just kind of. ignore that large scene

but you know c 'est la vie here we are all that

being said i i really i like the way they're

building up cat i want to see her become more

than just the lounge singer i want to see her

become you know the felicia harding we know absolutely

agreed but we're only three episodes in so we

could very well see that in the future uh and

who knows she could be part of the sinister six

that they're kind of cobbling together here But

yeah, it's fun to see. If you've been listening

through, you know that I like other world stories

and things that don't have any stakes, that things

that the familiar just with a twist. So this

is an absolute blast for me. I love it. I'm not

as as much of a a noir or detective crime type

as John. But this this is really scratching an

itch that I didn't know I had. I'm having so

much fun with it. I think it's one of those good

things that we're both hyped about this for different

reasons. Like for you, it's the story with no

real stakes. It's a standalone. It's just looking

at a story and characters I know through a different

lens. That's what I love about the what ifs and

the other worlds. You're getting that itch scratch

for this. And for me, I don't care about those

types of things. I want it to have stakes, but

this is just such a good like. mystery that I'm

just like, yes, give me more. And so we're both

kind of hyped up for different reasons, but Hey,

you know, however we get there, if it's, if it's

good, it's good. I'll take it. And I'm having

a ton of fun with the night. I'm three episodes

in, we're, we're coming up on the halfway point

next episode and yeah, I'm sold. Yeah. I'm ready

to see where this, let's go. I'm ready to see

where this takes us for sure. For sure. Well,

uh, speaking of, we will, we will see you next

episode, folks. We cannot wait to see it. I'm

so intrigued. Absolutely. Catch you then. Thank

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