Agent Carter · Season 1 · Episode 3
Time and Tide
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Really had to remind us of who she is every time
they start this, huh? I've forgotten. Please
remind me. You're the only one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The cigarette guy. Yeah, the dude with the. Was
that the flux capacitor on his throat? Yeah,
that's right. Yes. The license plate. The only
car in the entire implosion. Couldn't have been
another. Leads us right back to you. Getting
some creeper vibes. Yeah, well, you know. Yeah,
well, yeah. She's got her hair in little donuts.
Okay. New tattoo idea. Yeah. Yeah. Sign me up.
My first one. There it is. Deep cut Marvel. The
big book. Oh, symbols. This one's a butt. Yeah.
What does this one mean? It this is this is a
trope and it's a trope that upsets me. Those
drainage pipes aren't made to hold human beings.
Oh, absolutely not. It was always crawling up
them. Yeah, there's a great movie called Heart
and Soul with Robert Downey Jr. Where he tries
it and it just completely fails and it's hilarious.
Good. Well, I'm glad that they're at least doing
it as it should be. Yeah. No, that's a yes. What
if he falls off and dies right there? That's
on her conscious, right? Guilt. Well, that's
an angle. Yeah. Heck of a shot. I'm not mad.
I'm disappointed. Yeah, correct. I got a switchblade.
Wow. Yeah, see? Don't make me get my Tommy gun.
Yeah, my Tommy gun don't. The passport. The passport.
Why did he have to say it like that? Yeah, he
did that on purpose. Yeah. Because people in
the 30s were racist. Well, I mean, not much has
changed. That's fair. Racism is pointed at different
people now, at least. Maybe that's progress.
No, it's not. It's not. That is the saddest breakfast
plate I've ever seen. Look at that. Look how
sad that breakfast looks. That's like half an
egg. Right. And some cottage cheese. I don't
know. I'm upset how she was jamming that toast.
I was just... I was just saying the same thing.
What's up with all these Marvel shows and doing
terrible things with food? You know, I'm starting
to wonder. Yeah. So far in the show, we are in
this series. We've seen Nick Cage peel a hot
dog and we've seen her do that with a piece of
toast. And that's just that I can think of off
the top of my head. Yeah. Don't forget that Nick
Cage used it as a telephone as well. Yeah. Yeah.
Because that was a thing. Yeah. Yeesh. Well.
Oh. Oh, boy. Kicking her out. Wow. Because she
had a little touching of the butt up there. Mm
hmm. They fonded. I did have a splendid evening.
You jerk. Well, she wasn't. Okay. Tell that to
my Tommy gun. Slightly different. Yeah. Vodka.
He just starts slapping the typewriter. Right.
Police work. Don't be that guy. Oh, hey, that's
a name we know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We know who
we know. Ask me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pick me. Coach,
put me in. There he is. He's got a lacy tablecloth.
Yes, he does. It's like a massive doily. The
day beckons. His house is impenetrable. I don't
feel like that's true. He's so petty. I love
petty Jarvis. It's that stiff upper lip. Yeah.
All his buttons are buttoned too. I know some
other characters that could take some notes from
this man. Mm hmm. FBI. So do they still have
Tommy guns at this point? I think so. Forty six.
I mean, technically, they're still around now.
Well, fair, fair. Were they still? You know,
you know what? And shame on me for not doing
the research before this episode of when they
stopped using. It's smort. It's smort. Yeah,
but I reported it stolen. To lay this to rest
once and for all, the Thompson submachine gun,
more commonly known as the Tommy gun. was used
from 1921 to the 1970s. Oh, whoa. Yeah. That
is so much later than I expected. So we can use
the Tommy gun joke a lot more times is what I'm
getting at. Here's hoping. Yeah. Poor man. Oh,
oh, for that reason. Yeah. Why'd you tell her
if you couldn't go? Well, why not? Ooh, yikers.
Snap. They really have a lot of choice, to be
fair. Yeah, right. Pretty amusing that she was
in the car with them. She's behind the glass.
Well, kind of. Except for you found all of it.
Well, not all of it. Oh, the bumper. Yeah, that's
right. That's right. That's what fell off. Yeah,
yeah. I don't love how his feet are on that desk.
Yeah, yeah. He's a little too comfortable. Yeah.
This is serious business here, Buster. I don't
feel like he means it. Yeah. A dozen. I don't
think you need that many, but maybe. I mean,
one for every field, right? I suppose so. Well,
now you made a mess. That was just rude. How
did he get that folder back? He just pushed it
in the floor. Phone plug. I saw it when he was...
Talking before, I was wondering if there were
two. I think the other one just had the picture.
We'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He's
got the important one and the not important one.
He's just being a prick. Well, yeah. He's doing
that awkward shoulder massage thing. Yeah, it
got weird real quick. Please don't touch me.
And get up out of my space with your short ass
tie. Yeah. Well, that's not how that works. Does
he? I don't know if that's what butlers do. Good
one What a goob Would she have him sign that?
Oh, would she just take? Yeah. How do you not
know? She should be a spy. She should be a spy.
With moves like that, what if they gave her her
own shield and made her a captain? What if? Right.
See what I did. What if? I did. I did. Don't
touch me. Why is everybody touching me? I'm so
touchy. Bold move. Let's just stay here and stare
at each other. Why is he so short? Yeah, don't
extend your arms that much. Especially with shoulder
pads. Yeah, you look very silly. Yeah, you did.
Another long and knowing look. Going for intimidation.
Not working. I'm sorry. Get out of here. Oopsie
poopsie. Which unfortunately for her is just
going to kind of lead more into the theories
of incompetence that her. Peers already have.
Yeah. There's a body in there. Right. The new
robot. Close my symbol book. Man, see who does
that at a party. Rhubarb pie sounds awful. Dude,
take that back. Rhubarb pie is excellent. You
know, I do like a good pie, so we'll leave judgment
out for now. I'll have to try and get confirmation.
Hard to get because rhubarb goes bad so fast.
Underwood. Donnie. She's somebody shady. I feel
like it, yeah. Ballet. Red Room. Huh? Huh? Mm
-hmm. I'm going to have schnapps and pie. I don't
trust her at all. No. She's too bubbly. She's
too chipper. Too convenient. For the impenetrable
house. Thank you. I've got my stealth action
suit on. Okay. There's a hole. There's a hole.
There's a hole in the middle of the room. Oh,
man. Oh, fancy knots. Yeah, not bad. Oh, get
out. We each get one, right? That's fair. Oh,
that's sewer water. He just stepped in it with
his fancy galoshes. Right. But I want to. That
doesn't look quite as dirty as I would expect.
Gross. That's clever. Not a lot when you're with
that, dude. No. Not enough. A sock? A nickel's
worth of free advice. Wow. Yeah. Just call me
a cripple and get on with it, huh? Yeah, yeah.
That didn't take long. Curiosity killed the Carter.
Wow. I mean, fair, but wow. She's got a point.
Oh, he pronounced it right. Budapest. You and
I remember Budapest very differently. Hmm. Well,
for a good reason. What a good man, Jarvis. Yeah.
Honorable deed. Yeah. Yeah, why don't you tell
it? I mean, his influence is the big room full
of money like Scrooge McDuck. Yeah, right. Mm
hmm. Yeah, this thing called lying by omission.
Starbreaker. Dream maker. There's a boat. Yup.
It's Starbreaker. You know, I gathered I gathered
I did follow that line. Bring your own weapon.
Well, he did. Y .O .G. It was funny when people
go and do stuff, how they just wait till they
are there and doing it to slap the magazine into
a gun. Mm -hmm. We got somebody shady. Is that
her detective buddy? Got a flashlight in my satchel.
She's got a jumpsuit on. She's really ready for
whatever. Oh, look, it's the symbol. It's the
symbol. It really is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You didn't notice that, I did, though. Oddly
enough, not in the symbol book. Spit a little
WD -40 on that door there. Well, looky here.
Well, how do you do? Crates on crates on crates.
Start crates. What you want. Yeah, especially
glowing. Yeah. That's the opposite of what's
good. Gamma. Gamma. It would be. Yeah. Damn.
Well, yeah. No. Honey, no. They're not gonna
do that. Yeah. It's a really cool shot. We've
seen this play out before. Mm -hmm. From the
shadows. Assassino! So, make a different voice.
Hello, this is a concerned citizen. I love that
we went the opposite side of the spectrum. Just
a pal. Just a pal. Right. Just a pal. Oh, yeah.
Bring your sandwich. I'm eating here. Oh, he
left the sandwich. It's going to be soggy by
the time you get back. Eat it in the car. Nobody
likes a soggy sandwich. There's just a guy and
a wife beater. Interesting. Definitively not
a pal. Yeah, yeah. He's anti -pal. Oh, well,
that's not what you're supposed to do with your
gun. Oh. I mean, I know you're supposed to follow
through with your punch, but when there's a steel
wall behind, don't do that. She's got her tactical
suit on. You're no match. Oh. That's not pleasant.
No. Oh, the pal is back. You done pissed him
off is what you did. Oh, dear. For back massages.
I got bum nards now. Oh, God. Oh, no. Oh, I hate
it. That's the worst. Oh, oh, that's not better.
Insult added to injury. Surprised his arm isn't
still seizing up. Yeah, it should still be going.
His unconsciousness has nothing to do with whatever
that thing was doing. Yeah, the blood flow or
the muscle twitches or whatever shouldn't shouldn't
be affected by his state of consciousness. The
passengers carrying the cherry. I'm a cap. The
one boat. Just one single boat. Yeah. That's
the important one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Goo goo
ga ga. The star stuff. Yeah. I mean, the guy's
got a point. Yeah. I mean, there are some people
that don't. But they aren't many. Fair, fair.
You're going to jail, pal. No broken bones in
the arm, huh? They looked kind of broken for
a second, but never mind. Yeah. He's got a healing
factor. Best not to question the official story.
No, he got knocked out. So it stopped working.
Yes. They take whatever the worst injury is.
Right. Fair, fair. Yeah. Yeah. Just load it all
in a van. Yeah. Uh -oh. Uh -oh. No, his arm is
broken. See? Way to jump to conclusions, Remy.
Fair enough. Fair enough. I was wrong. The car
coming up behind them, though. That's bad news.
Yep, they're riding awful close. Oh, no. Yep,
there he goes. He's going to start pushing. They
don't care about that guy. He's going to... Oh,
oh, oh. Oh, man. I'm not going to say I like
that guy, but I didn't wish that on him. Yeah,
I thought that train was going to be more of
a relevant piece of this story. Yeah, I totally
thought he was just going to get up on him and
start pushing. Yeah. Boy, that's a that's a way
to end it. Oh, that's not the end. Never mind.
That's a way to sort of continue the story. Oh,
having a cry over there. Mm hmm. What is happening?
No, I'm guessing they're sad that their coworkers
did. Very quiet. Yeah. He looked like he was
sleeping. There's flowers and dirt. I got a jar
of dirt. That's how Sandman was made, right?
That's right. Yeah, that's kind of a sippy cup
move that you guys did, really. Mm -hmm. Look
at that tie. Oh, that's the shortest one yet,
I think. He's flying at half -mast because of
the dead guy. Well, that's not fair. Yeah, man,
what a speech to make. I can't shorten this tie
up any more than I already have. So you guys
better stay alive. Tell you the tail's going
into my pants. She's having a rough couple of
days. Well, she's been having a rough entire
series. Fair enough. Oh, come on, Annie. Well,
she wouldn't drink the schnapps and rhubarb pie.
I'd be mad too. Every so often, you gotta have
a night. Angie. Yep. You're at work. Mm -mm.
Waitress, where's my eggs? Jeez. Oh, man. You're
a pretty good guy. Yeah. There you go. Yep. You're
at work. Let me get this customer who's paying
my wages his drink. Right. That's what you meant
to say, Angie. Yeah, Angie. God. Teach you about
something rude. Auto Matt. It reminds me of the
TVA. Yeah. Well, they really screwed the pooch
on that one. Indeed. To the deep dive. Thank
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Who's that girl? It's Jess.
New York, 1946. Peggy pores over books of symbols trying to identify the mark a dying Leviathan agent left behind, all while settling into a strict women's residence where a late-night visitor and a roommate's expulsion spark a realization: no place is truly impenetrable, including Howard Stark's robbed vault. Before she can act on it, the SSR pulls Jarvis in over the license plate found in the refinery wreckage, pressing him about a dishonorable discharge until Peggy engineers his release. Freed, Jarvis joins her at the vault, where a hole in the floor sends them into the sewers. Along the way he confesses the truth behind his discharge: forging a general's signature to smuggle his wife Anna out of Budapest, saved from execution only by Howard Stark's influence. The tunnels lead to a harbor boat bearing the Leviathan symbol and loaded with Stark's missing tech. Rather than claim the find and risk being branded Stark's accomplice, Peggy has Jarvis phone in an anonymous tip. A hulking Leviathan enforcer attacks, and Peggy takes him down with a piece of Stark tech. The SSR recovers the arsenal and arrests the goon, but on the drive back, Agent Krzeminski and the prisoner are both gunned down by an assassin. The next day the office mourns, Sousa grows suspicious of the anonymous call, and Chief Dooley resolves to redouble the hunt for Howard Stark.
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Hello and welcome, fellow Marvel fans, to the
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and enjoy this episode of Stark Industries. Hello,
ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Snark
Industries Deep Dive. We just watched Agent Carter,
Time and Tide, Season 1, Episode 3. John, why
don't you tell us what that was about? Yeah,
so we have Agent Carter who is continuing to
sort of play this double agent. By day, she's
working along the other agents at the SSR and
sort of having to receive the short end of the
patriarchy stick there in that case. And the
rest of the time, she's sort of working behind
the scenes to find and deal with Stark's inventions
that were stolen, which is kind of the whole
crux of this and why he's on the lam, so to speak.
As she's doing so, she comes across this symbol
that the in the previous episode, for those that
recall, was scratched into the dirt as one of
these. Leviathan question mark agent scratches
into the dirt with his with his dying breath.
And she's got big books. Oh, symbols, which I
mean, who doesn't have a copy of that on their
bookshelf that she's searching through to figure
out. She's trying to figure out what this symbol
means, what it's for, and ultimately is not having
a lot of luck in that case. This is all why she's
sort of taken up her new residence here in this
sort of all women's home. And we have this really
kind of funny scene where this man's like crawling
up a drain pipe and goes to her window, but he's
really looking for somebody else. And she just
closes the window on him. And the next day that
woman gets kicked out because they're practicing
purity culture at this women's home. And that's
a whole thing. And somehow that interchange of
this woman getting kicked out because this place
is impenetrable. And she says, no place is impenetrable.
And it was a lot of talk about penetration when
there was just a man sneaking upstairs. So I
don't know how to feel about that, but that's
what happened. And ultimately, she wants to go
to Jarvis. Oh, you know they fondued it. They
fondued it. She wants to go to Jarvis and try
to have this idea. Ultimately, she decides that
this means that this vault that these inventions
were stolen from would have been penetrated in
a different way than the door. Unfortunately
for her, in the meantime, due to the finding
of the license plate in the wreckage of the explosion
that happened, Jarvis is brought in for questioning
as the license plate leads back to him through
way of being in Stark's name. Obviously the only
car. Yeah. Well, Stark's known for only having
one car, to be fair. So they've got him in an
interrogation room and ultimately they bring
up. This dishonorable discharge, kind of a new
nuance to Jarvis' character that we didn't have
before. They're really pressing on. I'm talking
about exporting is not the word I'm looking for.
How do you get kicked out of a country? What's
that called? Why am I dumb right now? Deporting.
Deporting. Yes. There was some kind of porting.
Deporting both he and his wife due to this. And
Jarvis about to crack until Agent Carter steps
in and does. And it's not super clear to me exactly
what she goes and talks to one of the agents
who's sort of on the outside of the room looking
in. And you see her kind of grab some paperwork
there, walks off to it, and is still standing
there from where she was walking off when the
door opens and Jarvis sees her. And then she
says, oopsie, I misplaced this file. And so they
just let him go. Yeah. And it's not really fleshed
out very well. And also, that's not at all how
anything works. So I don't understand what they
were trying to do there. Maybe I missed something.
I even tried to do some research on the back
end and I can't find anything that makes this
make sense in my head other than just something
to drive the narrative along. So Jarvis is loosed
from from this place, from these clutches of
the SSR, who thinks that he and Howard, of course,
are the bane of. Which may be true. Who knows?
But he is free for now. And ultimately, he and
Peggy end up getting together later to sort of
penetrate this vault, as we were saying before,
now that Jarvis is free. And they open the vault
door and see this big hole in the ground. And
see, that's how they did it. And lower themselves
down into the sewers to sort of follow along
where this might have went. As they're doing
so. At first, you know, after having learned
all this stuff about the dishonorable discharge,
you know, Peggy says, I don't need to know about
that. You know, that's your business. I trust
you. You're fine. And not 30 seconds later, she's
like, I need to know about it. And he presses
back on it a little bit. It ultimately says,
you know, Mr. Stark, trust me, that should be
sufficient. In which case I would say, yeah.
And she's like, no, he's a horse or whatever.
Like it very much pushes Jarvis into revealing
this sort of secret. And ultimately, we find
out that he is dishonorably discharged for forging
a general's signature to be able to get who is
now his wife, I believe, right? This is this
Anna person. That was the one I picked up, yeah.
Yeah, who was Jewish and, you know, with all
the things that were going on, needed a signature
to be able to leave and go to ultimately where
they are now. And the general wouldn't do it,
so he forged the signature, got caught, and ultimately,
when both of them could have been killed for
that, really. Just a dishonorable discharge because
Howard, quote unquote, used his influence to
get him out of the bind and ultimately, I suppose,
make him his butler. A .K .A. money. Yeah, yeah.
He flunked, I said, he used his Scrooge McDuck
room and got it done. Yeah, yeah. His money power.
Yeah, so, you know, he's able to get her out
of there, out of Budapest. That's right. We had
a little bit of Budapest talk. Oh, that's right.
During that thing. And saved him and her. And
that was ultimately the reason for his dishonorable
discharge. And so we get that little bit of story,
which honestly, you know, I love it. Jarvis is
the best boy and they keep showing that that's
true. So they move there anyway. They keep moving
through these sewer lines and ultimately find
a boat in a harbor as they kind of exit the other
end of them that has this symbol that she had
seen etched into the ground is etched onto the
side of the ship. How convenient. And they go
into it, and it is indeed laden with Stark's
missing tech. Yeah, Stark's missing tech. They
go to check it out and see what's happening.
She wants to take credit for it, but Jarvis convinces
her that in doing so, the other members of the
SSR will use it to bury her and not believe her
that this exonerates Stark, but instead that
she's in cahoots with him. There are cahoots
being had. So, you know, she convinces him instead
to go and make an anonymous call into the SSR
to basically give them the credit for finding
it. Because, you know, that way everyone's kind
of safe, you know, in that case of the people
that are here that we care about. As he's out
doing this, this very large goon comes in. I'm
not sure exactly what it is. We assume. given
the information at hand somehow tied into this
Leviathan story arc, which isn't fully fleshed
out yet. I think that it's by design a little
bit mysterious. Sure, sure. He and Carter kind
of do battle in this room, ultimately, and he's
getting the upper hand on her, really, and Jarvis
shows up and tries to help, and then he's getting
the upper hand of Jarvis, and then she pokes
him in the back with a piece of Stark tech that
makes his arm go all crazy and break, and then...
gets slapped in the head. He's unconscious. And
so they both leave him there with this Stark
tech. He's slapped in the head by a pipe. Yeah,
with a pipe. Yeah, correct. So the SSR agents
then show up. This guy's laid out on the floor,
knocked out or whatever. At this point, Carter
and Jarvis are already gone. So they, oh, look,
this is crazy. So they round up the tech. They
arrest the guy. The tech is en route back to
the SSR headquarters be looked at, to be dissected,
to figure out what it is. And one of the agents,
Agent Krasinski, Krasinski, it's a mouthful.
I'm not good with words, but that. It's a good
thing you do a podcast. Yeah, correct. I'm the
best at words. Puts this Leviathan question mark
goon in the car with him and is taking it back
and is talking to him about how. Poor the interrogation
is going to be for him when he gets there, which
is just a whole mood. And then we see these headlights
kind of pop up behind them, rear ends them a
little bit as they're going down the road. We
had a brief moment where we thought they were
going to get hit by a train. That was a red herring.
Krasinski gets out of the car and this guy that
was in the other vehicle steps out, shoots him
three or four times with a silenced pistol of
some kind. and then steps up to the window and
also kills this goon, getting in and leaving
the scene scot -free, effectively. And then,
you know, as we kind of end the episode, we have
Peggy coming into work the next day. Everyone's
having a cry and an emotion about Krasinski and
his death, which is fair, you know, even if it
wasn't necessarily the best of guys, you know,
in terms of what all they were doing. But ultimately...
you know, kind of realizes what all the happened
and, you know, whether it's best or not best,
their actions, they are kind of not cause this
directly, but I think that that's something she's
sort of wrestling with. And Suze is all sus about
the phone call and where it came from. Right.
Exactly. Yeah. Something. Yeah. It's all kind
of sus. And the kind of the very last thing that
we have is sort of the head of this SSR, which
I believe is this agent Dooley. Yeah. Steps out
and is basically like. All right. This was all
because of Howard Stark. He may not have pulled
the trigger, but Krasinski is dead because of
him. So we're going to double our efforts of
making sure we bring him to justice, which is
honestly just a wild leap. Yeah. Given everything
that's happened. But that's where he is. And
that's where the episode ends. Yeah. Yeah. So
outside of plot, in terms of tie in to the MCU,
of course, we've got Peggy, who's a direct tie
in herself. and everything else. But other than
that, really, this is kind of a standalone story
that happens post -Captain America, but doesn't
seem to tie in with any future projects, as we've
had the privilege of seeing a lot of those things.
So unless they're going to do something in the
future, this kind of thread of the timeline kind
of goes off on its own. But of course, like I
said, Peggy herself is a prominent figure in
the MCU, and so a very direct tie -in. with Steve's
story and with the MCU at large. Right. So why
don't you tell us a little bit about comic tie
-ins and Easter eggs for this episode? Sure.
There's not a whole lot, unfortunately, but you
know, we've got to talk about Peggy being, you
know, more of a footnote character and now getting
her own show. I know we kind of discussed that
in the previous two episodes, but it's good to
see her coming into her own. There is a lot of
mention of Leviathan still. We're still working
with that. And a reminder there, it is the. Third
arm, we've got Shield, Hydra and Leviathan. Leviathan
is the one that did not survive. So maybe we
see, you know, a little bit more tie in. Maybe
maybe the show is the reason Leviathan doesn't
survive. But as far as comic polls, that's really
the best I got for you today. I did catch a couple
of small Easter eggs. The dead don't walk. This
was made at the same time as The Walking Dead.
So it's kind of a jab for the the current airing
shows. The Griffith, the impenetrable building
is actually a real building called the Barbizon.
Yeah. Peggy's strict woman's hotel is modeled
after the real Barbizon hotel for women in Manhattan.
So. That's weird. Yeah. Fun. Fun. Yeah. Yeah.
And then, of course, we we hear of Roxanne a
lot still because that's where the implosion
happened. And Roxanne is a massive thing in the
comics. So I guess that could be kind of from
the comic polls as well. But regardless, still
kind of an Easter egg because we haven't gotten
a whole lot about it. So as far as Easter eggs
and polls, that's pretty much all I got for this
one. What do you think? Yeah. So I've been enjoying
Agent Carter thus far. But I got to be honest,
this episode felt a little disjointed from what's
happened so far. Yeah. The writing felt a little
sloppier than what we've had thus far and everything,
especially like I said, I mean, we talked a little
bit about it in the recap. You know, this this
whatever happened where she got Jarvis out of
this pinch, which he was in a real bind here.
Mm hmm. Because obviously he was discharge. Yeah,
because he was indeed there to talk about exportation,
a .k .a. deportation. Now that my brain's working
again. But, you know, this this idea that whatever
she did, I mean, it's just. That to me, that's
just some kind of lazy, lazy writing or something,
or at least very not explained very well. If
they had a if they had a legitimate idea, they
didn't explain it to a point where me or you,
even with research, could figure out. How this
happened or how it was relevant to a point where
they could just say, oh, OK, you can leave now,
even though we had you dead to rights 30 seconds
ago. Right. Just kind of confusing in terms of
that and everything. It was kind of cool to see
a little bit of Jarvis's history. I said Jarvis
is a very fun and important character that we
kind of had, you know, kind of a new take on
in the future when we have the original Iron
Man movie where he's like this AI assistant or
whatever. So it's really cool still to see him,
the actual Butler Jarvis, and have his story
kind of expanded a little bit and everything
else. Really, really interesting. So I did like
that portion of it, at least. The action scene
with the fight between Peggy and the goon was
cool. But like I said, the storyline itself just
didn't seem to flow in the same way to me for
this episode specifically. So I wouldn't say
it's bad. It just feels, like I said, just disjointed,
just a little lackluster comparatively. You know,
it didn't lead me to a point where I'm like wondering
what's happening next, because what I'm wondering
is happening next here is the same exact thing
I was wondering what was happening next in the
previous episode. So why is this episode even
really here? You know, it's almost like filler,
a filler episode. It does feel that way. Yeah.
So, well, I mean, you just kind of showed your
hand a little bit, but I'll kick the ball back
over to you. Tell me how you feel about it. Yeah,
I'm in the same boat. It felt a little bit too
convenient. It it felt like your typical CSI
show that you you've kind of the clues are told
to you from the start. And it's just I don't
care for that kind of storytelling. So I did
not love this episode, though. That being said,
I do agree with you. I love seeing Jarvis. I
love seeing him. And actually, you know what?
Come to think of it, I don't know if I mentioned
that in the last two episodes or not. But Jarvis,
as most people know him from the the MCU and
then Vision. Jarvis is a real person in the comics.
He is the butler. So to see him as a physical
butler is is fantastic, as you were saying. And
I I don't know that I called that out because
it's so I don't just Jarvis is so separate. The
two entities are so separate to me. I didn't
even didn't even put two and two together that
the people might not know that. So it's fun to
see. Jarvis as the real character, as you said,
and to get his backstory and to see how much
he cares about his wife is really endearing for
the character. That is like his one true, true
weak spot. And I say that in a good way, of course,
you know, as heroes have weak spots. Absolutely.
We all have our kryptonite. Yeah, absolutely.
But yeah, Peggy doing her thing. It's a lot of
fun to watch. I like her as a character. Haley
Atwell is fantastic as her. So, you know, I'm
having fun, but this was not the strongest episode
they've put forth yet. So, you know, yeah, good
part of the story, but not great on its own.
Well, you know, sometimes you have those. And
ultimately, at the end of the day, if this is
a series that's done and complete that we're
going to be watching here together with you all.
And I do believe that once this is all said and
done, this, this will be a fun series overall.
So not every episode can be a, can be a ringer.
And this one I don't think is, but, uh, still
worth the watch. Uh, like I said, there's definitely
some entertaining parts of it. Uh, the fight
scene especially was, was, was pretty cool seeing.
Yeah. Yeah. That was good. Uh, you know, seeing
that kind of inaction there and everything. Um,
so not perfect, but worth it. Yeah. Right. On
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Bang, ba -bang, ba -bum -bum.
Snark Industries works through the third Agent Carter chapter, with Peggy still splitting her time between SSR busy work and her off-the-books hunt for Stark's stolen tech. The full plot gets walked through, from her struggle to decode the Leviathan symbol, to Jarvis being hauled in for questioning over the license plate, to the sewer route that leads Peggy and Jarvis to the marked boat full of Stark's inventions. The heart of the breakdown is Jarvis's backstory: a forged general's signature to get his wife Anna out of Budapest, a dishonorable discharge, and Howard Stark's money smoothing it all over, a reveal both hosts single out as the best part. The rest lands more critically, with a murky interrogation scene that neither host could make sense of even after digging, a convenient trail of clues, and a filler feel that leaves them wondering next about the exact same thing they were wondering the previous time. Personal thoughts converge: real love for Jarvis and Hayley Atwell, appreciation for the fight choreography, and honest agreement that this is the weakest entry so far, disjointed and a touch lazy in its writing, but still worth the watch as part of a series they expect to enjoy as a whole.
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Synopsis
Peggy Carter is still cleaning up after Howard Stark. His stolen inventions are loose in New York and the man who took them lies on an SSR slab. The corpse belongs to Leet Brannis, a Russian who was supposed to have died in 1944 at the Battle of Finow. Daniel Sousa proves the dead man served in a rifle division that was wiped out two years ago. Dead men, it seems, are walking. Peggy and Edwin Jarvis chase the theft back through Stark's flooded vault. A thunderstorm had opened the tide gates the night of the break-in. All Brannis needed was a raft and a forecast, and the whole cache floated out toward the sea. They finally find the loot on a decommissioned boat.
The night belongs to Jarvis. Jack Thompson drags him into the SSR and grinds him down, waving a treason charge and a dishonorable discharge in his face. The truth is significantly kinder than treason. Before the war, in Budapest, Jarvis met and loved a woman named Ana. When the Nazis closed in, he forged his general's signature on the letters of transit that got her out. Howard Stark pulled the strings that kept his neck out of the noose. Peggy calls the recovered weapons in from the shadows and lets Sousa take the credit, so Stark's name stays clear of it. The win comes at a price. An assassin executes Ray Krzeminski and the only living witness. Chief Dooley sets the bodies squarely at Howard Stark's door.
Reality Designation
This story takes place in the main continuity: 199999
Reality numbers are Marvel's official designations.
Where a universe has no official number we follow the Marvel Database and use its Temporary Reality Number (TRN-1092). Where there is neither — official or temporary — at the time we watch it, we assign a Snark Industries number of our own (SI-001).
Characters in the Episode
Works Stark's case from inside the SSR while running her own investigation.
Stark's butler and Peggy's ally; hauled in and interrogated, his past exposed.
SSR agent who leans on Jarvis in the interrogation.
SSR agent; runs down the Finow lead and IDs the dead Russians.
SSR chief; pins the night's deaths on Stark.
Milestone: Killed by Dorothy 'Dottie' Underwood / Ida
SSR agent; murdered by the assassin along with the witness.
Peggy's Automat-waitress friend; offers an ear Peggy finally takes.
Kills in this episode: 1
New Griffith resident, introduced as an Iowa ballet hopeful.
The Griffith's house matron; evicts Molly over the no-men rule.
SSR front-office operative; breaks the news of Krzeminski's death.
Milestone: Killed by someone
Hired strongman guarding the stolen cache on the boat.
Griffith resident evicted after Jimmy is caught above the first floor.
The boyfriend of Molly who gets her evicted.
SSR agent. Turns down the fatal shift.
SSR agent. Turns down the fatal shift.
Jarvis's wife; heard in the garden. Integral to Edwin's past
In-Universe Dates
Harry Houdini's performance at The Griffith
Named in Miriam Fry's speech
Jarvis and Ana in Budapest
The forged letters of transit; his arrest in Whitehall and dishonorable discharge. Told in dialogue, not shown. Roughly the late 1930s into the early war years
Peggy's week in the New York sewers
Winter of 1942. Spoken by Peggy
Battle of Finow, near Finow, Germany
Invoked in dialogue as Sousa digs into the rifle division wiped out there. Brannis and Sasha Demidov should be dead by it and are not.
This date was worked backward from the date being spoken onscreen in S1 E5&E8 and takes place over roughly 1 day.
Comic Roots
Where the episode's people and places come from on the page.
Edwin Jarvis debuts in Tales of Suspense #59 (1964) from Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, and on the page he is the unflappable Avengers Mansion butler, a former RAF man and boxing champion with a spotless record. The show keeps the accent and the loyalty and reinvents the rest. The treason charge, the dishonorable discharge, and a Jewish wife smuggled out of Europe are all invented for the screen.
The dead man on the slab carries a genuine deep cut of a name. A comics Leet Brannis exists as a small-time 1940s crook who ran a jewelry racket out of a pawnshop and tangled with the Golden Age Whizzer, and the name is a tidy anagram of "Stan N. Lieber," the birth name of one Stan Lee. The show borrows the name and little else, recasting Brannis as a Soviet soldier who cheated a mass grave. Behind him is Leviathan, the Cold War spy-army introduced by Jonathan Hickman and Stefano Caselli in the 2009 Secret Warriors run as the Eastern Bloc's answer to HYDRA and S.H.I.E.L.D.
Jerome Zandow gets a demotion. In the comics, Zandow is the strongman of Fritz Tiboldt's Nazi "Circus of Death," a troupe of killers touring America to murder military officials, first rolling into Captain America Comics #5 (1941) in the Simon and Kirby era. He once went a round with Captain America and Bucky. Here he is just a Coney Island sideshow act picking up guard work for a paycheck, and a woman he underestimates puts him on the deck. The name is a nod past the comics to the real Victorian strongman Eugen Sandow.
Recommended Reading
Where to go next if the episode left you wanting more.
Edwin Jarvis's first appearance. Worth checking out to see how far the show stretches the lore of the faithful butler.
The Ringmaster of Death and his Nazi circus, strongman Zandow included. Zandow's debut, back when he was a genuine wartime menace rather than hired help.
The book that builds Leviathan. Fun seeing the modern organization the show backdates to the Cold War's opening days.
The Snark File
Easter eggs, callbacks and technical tidbits.
Leet Brannis
An anagram of "Stan N. Lieber," the birth name of one Stan Lee. That guy.. Always popping up where you least expect him.