A Mistake I'll Never Make Again

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of Stark Industries. Episode four of Spider Noir.

Noir. Previously on Spider Noir. Previously,

they left us on a cliffhanger of who got shot.

OK, so I'm thinking it's either the widow, Addison,

or the real short dude, his buddy. Yeah, it's

got... My money's on his buddy. You know, because

they were so close. It's like, oh, this was clearly...

Yeah, he knew you were obviously in it. Who's

dead? Who's dead? Let's see. Give me the spider.

Made it look like he went back to that wall to

make sure it was really. Yeah, double tap. Because

I'm the sand monster. The sand monster. Nope.

All right. And here we go. Or they're going to

do the Janet treatment and they just don't ever

say it. It's just somebody's dead. Oh, man. So

she's back. Not even going to answer our damn

questions. Yeah. I mean, unless this is a flashback,

we know she's alive. And they're going to cut

to Nick Cage who's going to be like, whoa, again

in the background like he has been every time.

Yeah. Oh, oh, oh. All right. All right. Cool,

cool, cool. Now they're all buddy, buddy. So

it wasn't Ben. It wasn't. I mean, we knew it

wasn't going to be Ben. Yeah. Yeah. That'd been

quite a while. It's different in this one. Yeah.

It's all fenced up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. There

it is. There it is. Short stack. Wait, how did

he have a grave already? They didn't dig it that

fast. Continuity. That was just them pushing

them into it. Continuity. We don't do that here.

Man, that Janet thing still bothers me. Yeah,

me too. I won't get over it. Fair. I'm glad she

just goes back to work, too. I mean, I guess

she's kind of under his thumb, but still. I don't

think she has a choice. May as well be wearing

bangles. Bangles. Oh man, full circle. She's

got to go home and plaster over a wall, a hole

in her wall. Crazy. Yeah, she needs some sand.

It's coarse and gritty. Gets everywhere. I told

you I was going to do it every episode. I expect

no less. Yeah. Nah. I don't dwell. That's good.

I like that. Hey, man. Branded once again. Yeah.

Yeah. Now, now you being, you know, doing what

you do. Is it old enough to have been in this

age? That's a good question. I want to say yes.

That feels like a pretty egregious error, if

not. Yeah, well, fair. I mean, let's not talk

about Shannon. You're the timekeeper. What year

is this set in? 1932. We're going to get to the

bottom of this mystery right now, Scooby -Doo.

This episode specifically, if I'm not mistaken,

starts on October 17th, I believe. Yellow Spot

Irish Whiskey originally started in 1805. Oh,

wow. So it was it was old by then. Mm hmm. See,

learning stuff here on Snark Industries. Yeah.

Like what happened to Janet? Amnesia. When are

we getting Electro, man? There's a couple of

faces in this intro that I don't think we've

seen yet. Mm -hmm. There's Electro. We're halfway

through with this episode. Maybe a lizard? Question

mark? Ooh. I didn't see that. You see the kind

of scaly face? Yeah. Yeah, I suppose it was kind

of a scaly guy, huh? Yeah. I mean, way to spoil

it in the intro, Spider Noir, but also show me.

I mean, we're still guessing. Yeah. Love to see

a Dr. Connor in the 30s. Oh, that'd be badass.

Well, she did add it. That was nice. It's true.

It's true. I remember my first time opening the

door. Feels like he might be a little hungover.

Yeah. I'm upset with that. That does sound pretty

mom. I mean, yeah, I would eat sausages. Yeah.

No, see, now I'm upset further. Robbie missed

a button at the bottom of his vest. I'm looking

for Easter eggs up in those signs and stuff,

but not seeing any. Yeah, that's a good spot

for him. Yeah. A 10 cent shave. Hot meals for

a nickel. Yeah. And Tommy guns. Take me back.

Yeah. It's two nickels to get that beer. And

they was that first episode, I think. Beer is

a bigger commodity, especially then. Sure, sure.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's very, very true. They

didn't have a 7 -Eleven on every corner stock

full of Bud Light. I was about to say poor bastards,

but then you said Bud Light and I changed my

mind. Nope, that hole in the wall is still there.

Bro. Just hot boxer. That's fine. God. Oh, do

it. Do it. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. Your

emperor voice didn't work on her. Shame. I tried,

though. You did. A forever. Well, don't be a

rat. We were kissing. She's quick on her feet.

Much like a cat. Like a cat. Yes. Yes, that is

good. Well, that's a lie. Yeah. Oh, he knows

it. Yeah, he does. God, he's such a good actor.

Yeah, agreed. Actually, everyone with one exception

has been pretty solid so far. Who? Who, Remy?

Tell us. I'm going to give you a good guess.

Three days that you quit. Mr. Mayday, that's

actually not right. Ew, that one's been in your

mouth. Right? School's out. Oh, man. I almost

did the same thing. That would have been weird

if we had both started singing at the same time.

That wouldn't have been the first time. Nor the

last, I'm sure. I thought she said Johnny Cage

for a second. I'm like, whoa. Whoa. He's watching

Mortal Kombat. He's eating a hot dog in the movie

theater. There's no end to this man's madness.

At least he's not peeling it. He's just awkwardly

holding it. He's not even eating it. He's talking

during it, too. Right. Oh, oh. All right. I hate

him. Awkward. I shouldn't be this way. But I

am. I can't help it. He held that hotline to

his ear like a telephone. God, it's very strange.

I didn't care for it. Yeah, just stop, man. What

are you doing? His interactions with food so

far have been unpleasant. Why are you laying

on your bed like that? Even when he says sausages.

Sausages. Good point. Give him a quarter for

his troubles. Kids. Yeah. Well, I mean, he's

saying things that are true. In fairness. It's

a cute little teapot. Especially the way he's

standing. Yeah. When they call them goons for

a reason, I guess. That guy's name is Pudge.

Oh, well. Checks out. Oh, Pudge is going to get

his head caved in. Well, now there's a mess to

clean up, so. Well, I mean, I don't think he

cares. I would make messes, too, if I didn't

have to clean them. Yeah. I didn't be a henchman

or two. Mm hmm. Smart. Smart. I like that angle

with the mirrors right there. That's fun. Yeah,

that is cool. Because he's a jerk. Mm hmm. You

see any seven foot people in there? Yeah. Excuse

me, I'm looking for the biggest man ever. His

skin turns to. Well, I guess this one's probably

not stone. Didn't look stone to me. No, like

a carapace. More like chitinous. Mm hmm. I guess

there's one missing. Mm hmm. Oh, man. Man, probably

littering. I think they cared in the 30s. Well,

I care in the 20s. I do, too. Fair, fair. Isn't

that wild? I know. A hundred years. Sick. No

strings attached. Including an array of hats

held on by hairpins. Crime lords are funny that

way. Yeah, right. It's almost like you should

expect it. Yeah, correct. Yeah. Good with teeth.

Hey. And then they touch butts. Then they touch

butts. With immaculate smiles. I wonder what

happened to him. Now there it is. Yeah, it's

very clear where this was going. Oh, of course,

yeah. Holes in the wall. Right. You need to widen

your circle. Yeah, her bar is so low. Dennis

was nice to me and the Sand Monster punches everything

except me. So catches all the way around. Moving

on up. Yeah. Speaking of Sandmancer, is that

him? Sandmancer. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Now he's going

to be jelly. Because that's the that's where

he was hanging out before. Yeah. He's like, oh,

my girl's got a new boo already. One night after

punching a hole in her wall. Right. Do you ever

save her life? Yeah, Sandmanster. And people's

lives would go a lot better if they would just.

Take a minute to talk to people. Yeah. And she

was sitting there concerned about talking in

a restaurant. Yeah. So she goes to a place where

people would go. All right. Choices. Just this

is pile of cigarette butts right there on the

ground. I know. Follow the soup man. Mm hmm.

He has all the soups. Taking it to the soups.

Taking the soup soups to go. Look how big that

door is. Perfect size for a giant man. Oh, he

got his bottom button fixed somewhere between

that other Santa just now. Good job, Robbie.

Yeah. Looks a bit like a Klingon with that. Yeah.

Thing they got going on the face. He just stays

like that now. He turned one time and now it's

just. Well, I guess that's what's happening with

the same. Yeah. Yeah. OK. All right. Didn't need

your sass, taxi boy. Just drive. Calm down, sir.

Yeah. Agreed. Well, it felt weird saying I agree

with him. Well, with Ben, I mean, he's a mostly

moral spider. Yeah, no, I could agree with Ben.

Just. I can't conflate the actors and the characters.

Oh, my God. Whoa. God, well, you taxi drivers

have always been crazy from the get go. Yeah,

evidently, evidently. Wow. In case you forgot

what happened three minutes ago, here's a...

That felt so comic book -y. Yeah. We'll give

them comic book -y and not just a bad idea. Yeah,

that's what I'm going to give him. Yeah. No.

I'm feeling a little gritty. I don't know. I

feel like having someone super powered, someone

that could definitely kill me under my thumb

just doesn't seem like the best idea. Like right

now he could knock his block off. He's about

to do it. I thought for a second. Yeah. How did

he convince him to come back to the office? Very

carefully. Put your little game away, Janet.

It's time to get serious. Put those papers in

the trash can. Just push them to the side. I'm

judging how these people live too much. literally

95 years ago well 94 people are still pretty

gross with their trash today so oh 100 % yeah

Oh, you got him. Now, next, a rousing game of

Parcheesi. Turn a light on. OK, here we go. Right.

How long? Why did it take him so long to get

that light switch right? It's right there. Yeah,

I know. Dramatic effect, perhaps. Why is there

a window on one of his interior walls? Is there

actually glass? Oh, let's see if they show the

angle again. Yeah. We can wash it. Yeah, there's

glass. Oh my God, there is. That's weird. It's

a window on his interior wall. That is so bizarre.

All right. I mean, you do you, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Pretty cool. I'll use the used glass. Tell me

why. Oh, man. Twice at the same episode. That

almost happened. dug deep in the barrel of adjectives

there. Mm -hmm. Touching butts. Oh, wow. I understand

that's dancing, but the... Okay, there we go.

That's a better angle. That initial one was a

little overt. A little weird. Yeah. So we're

going to find out who this fool is. This is his

Batman origin story. Right. Oh, man. That sucks.

I mean, you're that close you couldn't fire off

a web or something? Yeah. I feel like firing

off a web to the dock and the car, you could

have, like, pulled. I've seen him do stuff like

that. Well, Ben, you can't blame yourself. You

don't know that. True. She could have gotten

that taxi you were in earlier, just. Ripping

you is in the way of that taxi he was in earlier.

Yeah, right. Well. Fair, fair. Want to touch

my butt? I'm about to say. Basically the same

thing. Nice handhold. Oh, and a little finger,

a little thumb action. Finger action is something

different. It's very different. My mama. Nailed

it. Nice. Hey, Marvel, we should write for you.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, that button's unbuttoned again.

Huh. That's a good reason to cry. What was the

name of the battlefield that Ben was on to with

these guys? Battlefield six. Probably not. Oh,

we about to make a scene. Oh, yeah. Here he comes.

That dude's got some aura, I tell you. Right.

Oh wow. Oh man. Wow. Ooh, this feels like a bad

play, man. Bold move, Cotton. Let's see how it

works out. Yeah, let's see. Boy, he's going to

have some regrets very quickly. Many regerts.

Oh. Wow. So he did make a scene. Yeah. Well.

You just bop him on the head. For now. I do appreciate

that they're leaning into the green stripes and

color scheme of Sandman. That's fun. But he needs

a little bit of yellow to really sell it. I don't

practice Santorini. Oh man, stop it. I can't

help it. Oh, my goodness. That's three times.

That's exactly where it was, too. So good. Oh,

man. You're leaning too far forward, Ben. Sit

back in your chair. No, she's not even singing.

You just had a lament about Ruby. Right. That

is so Spider -Man and Black Cat. But I thought

we were touching butts. Yeah, that's the last

thing on my butt. He did tell you that. He's

got to crawl through that window and put his

suit on real quick. Yeah. Suit time. He needs

a phone booth. Doc Faber. You're literally right

there. I'm going to make you famous. God, whipslinging

is always cool. Yeah, so much fun. I don't think

I've seen a rendition of whipslinging that's

not just like, oh, that's awesome. Yeah. No,

that was less awesome. Oh. Is this our electro?

Those look pretty electric. Boogie woogie woogie.

No, no. There we go. Oh, yeah, that's cool. Hell

yeah. He deserves that for how we eat the hot

dog earlier. That's what you get for peeling

your hot dog. Yeah. And this guy's voice. Yeah.

Oof. That was a bad day. Yes. We saw it. Yeah,

right? You just pissed him off. Now you want

me to... Oh, how exciting. It's kind of getting

beat up, though. He's really not doing so hot.

Mm hmm. Yeah, there you go. He's going in there

to change it to his electro suit. Don't be so

distracted by your lady, man. I know. Amateur

move. They almost touched butts earlier. I know.

Not for this guy. So now he's probably not going

to get to touch the butts at all. I don't know.

I think she might have just realized that he's

Spider -Man. That looked like a very knowing

look. Could be. I wouldn't let him finish that.

Well, OK. Phrasing. All right. There you go.

Well, now everything's dark. Let just enough

for filming. Yeah. Oh, God, this guy's voice.

It's like he's got his nose stuffy. Well, it's

stuff full of electricity. That's the best. That

was pretty great. Tooth to horn, mayorly. Oh,

yeah. The manhole cover thrown at him is such

a classic Spider -Man thing. Yeah. Now, he didn't

grab it with a web and fling it back at him,

so I'm a little disappointed in that. Yeah, he

really needs to get some of his old tricks back.

Yeah. Yeah, I guess we're just to assume this

because he's the old man Ben here, that he's

just bad at stuff. Yeah. Buddy. So he just runs

out of juice, huh? I guess so. Interesting. What

do you mean you're out of ice? You can't run

out of ice. He's got a camera. Robbie's just

sitting there taking pictures. God, what a. Goon.

No, I don't want to. I probably don't know that

now. Oh, I do that sometimes, too. What? Goodness.

I'm pretty flexible for all this dude is. I just

sat down in my little chair. Come on, man. So

you're the spider. Still want to touch butts?

Yeah. Even more so now. Right? Tell me more about

that webbing. Clean that sink up. Yeah, and that's

where the dishes go? Yeah, that's where his used

cup was. Several. This is so aggravating to me.

Oh, man. I hope you're right. I know. What if

she was wrong? She just dies. Oh, man. Being

caught like that, though, that is 100 % out of

the books. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was fun. Yeah.

I had a hunch that that's what was going to happen

when she opened that window. Yeah, it seemed

very intentional. Yeah. Mr. Spider's my father.

Oh, now there's now there's butt touching. Oh,

yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what we call a butt cliffhanger.

Butt hanger. No, that's not good. Oh, no, no,

no, no, no. We'll see you in the deep. Thank

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and enjoy this episode of Stark Industries. Hello,

ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Snark

Industries Deep Dive. We just watched episode

four of Spider Noir, A Mistake I'll Never Make

Again. John, why don't you go ahead and tell

us what that was about? All right, so we pick

back up here in the alcove, not in the random

field that we last left off on. And we have Silvermane

and Ben sitting and enjoying a couple of cocktails,

listening to Cat sing. Have a little bit of flashbacks

of the night showing the other dead body is the...

Short stack. Short stack. Is that his name? Did

he ever get a name? Yeah. I don't know his name.

That doesn't sound right. Is the second sort

of kind of in command there, the little duo who

ultimately got ousted as the traitors, the rats,

though we all know is kind of set up from the

last episode's events. They have kind of a conversation

there and Silverman actually offers to put Ben

on the payroll because he's so good, which Ben,

of course, respectfully declines with his smart

mouth who Silverman responds with, that's going

to get you killed one day, which I don't know,

feels kind of on brand. Yeah, right. So we kind

of move forward. Cat reaches out to Ben and kind

of have a discussion about everything that happened.

After she had a discussion with Silvermane as

well the next day about what she was doing there

with Ben, she kind of said, he suspected me.

He didn't trust me. Thought that I might have

been in on it, which to be fair, he did. So what

she told him was true, though deceptive in her

own way. But she goes to Ben and kind of has

a discussion with him about everything and ultimately

not willing to talk to him in this. random cafe

that they meet, goes back to the original sort

of theater where she was first discovered by

Silvermane and began working in his employ. And

they sit down on the stage and kind of have this

heart -to -heart conversation where she admits

to kind of being behind all of this, which we

kind of already figured out from context, but

she tried to deny it even so up until the very

end. But she does finally come clean with him.

Unfortunately for her, Flint, a .k .a. the Sandmaster,

up in the rafters randomly, being a weirdo, listening

to them talk. And after kind of hearing this

conversation, you know, you kind of see him sort

of all pouty, stomp off. Get a little more sandy.

Yeah, get a little more sandy and go stomping

off. Back to Silvermane to offer his services

to him once again after he's been laying low

for the, ultimately, the entirety of this story

that we've gotten so far. Silvermane then shows

up. We have this little kind of tidbit where

he's having a conversation, breaks a teapot about

how the chief of police who's in his pocket was

supposed to show up for his monthly appointments

and didn't do so. And so Silvermane sort of realizes

that this is an open act of defiance for a reason.

Not really clear what that open act of defiance

is just yet, but he wants to go make a scene.

Go make a scene, he does. He and Flint show up

to... This sort of gala that they're having that's

got the mayor and this chief of police sitting

with their wives at a table. And the men send

the women away, much to their chagrin, which

was kind of funny. They weren't so happy about

that. Yeah. The mayor, who obviously had been

bought and paid for to that seat, is kind of

standing up against Silvermane and saying, you

know, things are changing. You had a good run,

but it's over. And Flint walks in and smashes

the table with his sand fist. And everyone says,

oh, no, everything's fine. We're all cool here.

You know, don't worry about it. And they kind

of go on sort of openly declaring war against

each other. That man is an ant picking a fight

with a boot. Yeah. Yeah. He is going to get so

messed up. Well, you know, you think that. But

then again, we have him sort of playing this

extra card, which which kind of ultimately is

how this thing ends. Yeah. We'll get there. We'll

get there in a moment. So, you know, this kind

of happens and then we cut back. Kat and Ben

had left the theater then and went back to his

place and were having more of a conversation.

They kind of open up about kind of some deep

history. He shares the story to her about Ruby

and how she had died. And ultimately, we get

kind of a better understanding of his trauma,

you know, that she died because of him. He put

a guy away who, you know, was then hellbent on

revenge, came back and killed her to get to him

while he was out having. A few cocktails with

friends, it looked like. And so he sort of was

carrying that weight. And we got them, you know,

sort of bonding in this moment and leaning in

for this kiss. And then it stopped short from

a breaking news announcement on the radio that

something was happening. And he sort of like

coldly, you know, she thinks that it's Flint

showing up, this powered individual, you know,

being shown. And he. Sort of acts nonchalant

about it, like he doesn't want to help. And,

you know, we kind of understand that he's doing

that. So she's pretty hilarious. Get out of the

way so he can suit up. But she doesn't know that.

So she's, you know, now she's pouting and stomping

away. While all that's kind of happening, we

also have a scene back at the PI's office where

Robbie has went and found Lonnie, a .k .a. Tombstone,

brought him to, you know, kind of question him

about everything. Janet is there, too, and have

a hard time getting him to open up. through a

clever use of playing a game of cards, he just

decided to spill his guts about everything. Uh,

after some time, it was sort of kind of get the

story about everything that happened in these

transformations, the, uh, prisoner of war bit,

you know, that we know that at least three of

these powered individuals have came from, uh,

this unit, the, this picture that we've seen

in previous episodes. So that's all kind of playing

in the background. Uh, and as they're doing that,

the phone rings there too. And it's been now

that cat has gone and he's ready to suit up.

He tells Robbie to get his camera, go downtown.

There's some pictures to take. And he suits up

in his spider outfit and goes swinging down there

thinking that he's going to have to go take on

Flint. But as he gets there, it turns out that

it's somebody else. And we see this man sort

of standing there causing a scene. And this sort

of electricity begins crackling. And I think

we there, we've been talking about through all

of these episodes. uh you know that looks like

electro's coming we see this you know this kind

of uh electricity power on the way and everything

and and by god we thought that that was it uh

but as we do a little bit of research here on

these deep dives to to keep you all informed

it's actually a much deeper pull than that and

you know uh shockingly so but really cool i think

it was uh actually shockingly you like that it

was actually megawatt who was there and uh Ends

up doing battle with Ben sort of here where all

of these people are watching and they're kind

of making comments about how, oh man, this guy

should have stayed retired as he's getting his

butt kicked by Megawatt here in the middle of

the street. Kicked instead of touched. Yeah,

that's right. That's right. And so, you know,

they're all kind of looking and we do see Kat

there too, who does show up thinking it's Flynn,

realizing it's not, and see sort of this knowing

look as she realizes somehow. It wasn't super

clear to me. I didn't catch what we were watching.

I didn't see anything in the research, but how

she knew. But somehow it seemed like she knew

as she's watching him fight that this is the

man that she just spent the afternoon with. But

as the kind of fight goes on, Ben rips down the

power lines in the area, cutting off his access

to electrical supply. And over some time, his

juice sort of peters out and he's able to get

knocked out. to uproarous applause from the crowd.

And perhaps by design or a stroke of good luck

on the mayor's part, after having his run in

with Silvermane, he steps into the area, puts

his arm around Ben and says, I have teamed up

with the spider to make this city safe again.

And everyone cheers. And Robbie takes a ton of

pictures. And Ben says, oh, you know, his fun

spider voice that he's been doing is sort of

against it. And everything seems to sort of culminate

there. And then ultimately we get one kind of

final scene to sort of give us that little bit

of touchback as he's going back home. It's like

stretching out after having ultimately a pretty

big battle with Megawatt. And Cat shows back

up again, opens the window, sits down and has

a smoke and says, am I right? And he's like,

well, I don't know what you're talking about.

and throws herself actually he's like well probably

but i don't know what you're talking about yeah

right throws herself out the window in the hopes

that he will catch her and uh you know like i

said i don't know how she sort of figured out

that he was him but luckily she was right or

else he would have been a splatter on the sidewalk

but he catches her uh with his web in a very

very uh i mean almost direct yeah shot by shot

pull from the You know, sort of famous Gwen scene,

although this time she doesn't die. Spoiler.

Well, yeah, it helps that there are two webs.

Yeah, correct. Pulls her back up and then they

sort of embrace and share this kiss as the credits

for this episode roll. Kind of the breakdown

of what happened. Yeah. You know, I said a little

bit of a broken record here again, but in terms

of tie ins, not really still into the MCU as

this once again is just kind of a standalone

thing. So I feel like a lot of that's already

been covered, you know, in terms of outside of

just kind of character names that, you know,

we would recognize and things like that. We don't

see a whole lot of actual tie -ins here as this

is a standalone Sonyverse. Not only, you know,

Sonyverse made, but also even with what it's

doing is made to be its own sort of place. Yeah,

right. So, yeah, it's as far removed as you can

be, but that doesn't detract from how... how

fun it is and how cool it is in its own right.

But that being said, I feel like especially here

with the introduction of some new characters,

there's some good comic tie -ins. So why don't

you go over that with us, Remy? Yeah. As you

mentioned, Megawatt enters the ring, which is

pretty exciting. Dirk Leighton. In the comics,

he is an Australian gentleman, an ex -convict.

He's not very well. Known in the comics, he's

pretty deep cut. But the power level that they

portrayed, I can kind of see the reason that

they went with Dirk instead of with Electro,

because Electro is a very consistent power. Dirk

shoots off a lot of electricity. He is a much

more much more of a powerhouse. And in the noir

comics, especially the ones that are currently

running, Electro is in there, but he's. crazy

overpowered in that book. So I think they went

with megawatt simply because of the power level,

pure speculation, but it does make a lot of sense

because otherwise megawatt is one hell of a strange

poll, but I love it. I'm all about that. But

as you mentioned, uh, the cat Hardy falling out

the window thing was very, very Gwen Stacy. And

It's pretty great that Kat, of all people, knows

who Spider -Man is, or the spider is. Because

in the comics, that is kind of their whole relationship.

Their entire relationship is based off the fact

that she knows and she always dangles it in front

of his face that she knows. It's very much Kat

and Spider -Man behavior. So I kind of love that.

As far as recommended reading, you've got the

noir books that I've already talked about. I

do highly recommend the... current Spider -Noir

run. I know I've mentioned it before, but if

you want to see the introductions of people like

Felicia Hardy or Black Cat, you can start with

Spider -Man number 194, which is a really good

book if I do say so myself. But that's pretty

much it as far as Easter eggs and comic polls

and source material. Overall, what'd you think?

How'd you like it? So I actually really liked

this one. This might've been my favorite episode

that's happened thus far. in the series we kind

of get the fleshing out of some stories which

you know kind of the culmination of what's been

happening thus far in terms of uh relationships

building and story arcs and stuff like that so

to kind of see you know how we're gonna have

flint ultimately because i mean you know it was

not really clear i mean obviously he was kind

of going through some stuff but not really clear

how he was going to be or like where his allegiances

would lie at the end of it but then seeing You

know, how he overhears this conversation and,

oh, you know, my cat is, you know, trying to

kill Silvermane, you know, and goes and he's

a pouty boy after that. You know, we kind of

said that, too. Yeah, I thought that was pretty

spot on. Spot on. But, you know, like I said,

to see these various sort of things kind of come

to fruition. So now we've kind of got the stage

set. You know, we've got this war effectively

coming between Silvermane and. The government

that ultimately he had paid off, but they are

standing against him now. And he's kind of got

this, I don't want to say army, but kind of of

super individuals, you know, that that are kind

of around him and stuff like that. But ultimately,

then we have Spider, who Ben, who is going to

be standing, although not. On purpose, because

not willingly, I guess, with with the mayor and

with the chief. But ultimately, I think just

for the sake of good, I think all that will kind

of come through as as it goes along. But like

the setting the stage at that point. Really well

done. The fight scene with Megawatt was very,

very cool. Yeah. I'm looking forward to seeing

more of him. Yeah. And I do hope that as as the

show continues, I think what is this kind of

the halfway point of this season here? I do hope

that as it continues and Ben is sort of shaking

off the dust more and more after having taken

several years off from the job, that we'll see

him get a little bit more... Agile? Yeah, just

a little bit more Spider -Man -ish. You know

what I mean? Yeah, that'd be nice. The fight

scene, like I said, was very well done. It was

very cool. I love to see how he was very clearly

outmatched until... The power level of megawatt

sort of dwindled down, you know, so he just kind

of had to endure it. But I mean, still, you know,

the the the agility, the spider sense, you know,

the things that Spider -Man is kind of known

for just still isn't there or not very good.

But I think that's obviously by design. It's

not it's not like, you know, they don't know

what they're doing. It's they're making him to

be this tired old version, you know, that's that's

taken so many years away from doing all of it.

So I do hope that it kind of gets better in terms

of like him getting more kind of inform as time

goes on. He's obviously kind of embraced the

suit again. He's used it, you know, more than

one episode now to go and do things. Right. So

but yeah, I said this was my favorite one so

far. I really, really want to see kind of what

happens next and the culmination of what they're

doing here. So, yeah, I'm a I'm a fan. I'm a

fan. How about yourself? Yeah, completely agree.

I'm. stoked to see such an odd poll of characters.

Dirk is an interesting choice, and I am very

interested to see why they chose him. Maybe they

wanted to kill someone off and then have Electro

in the future, or they just needed the power

level to match. Whatever the case may be, I'm

excited to see where they go with him. I kind

of like that we're seeing Flint go the more villainous

direction. I like him as a sympathetic character

as he's in the comics, but there's also a point

where Sandman's got to be Sandman. So I'm glad

that we're getting a little bit of that. He'll

probably swing back at some point. But I like

I like seeing the characters in their full force.

So that that'll be a lot of fun to watch. Overall,

I I'm into it. I absolutely. This show is corny

and it's I mean, Nick Cage is absolutely ridiculous,

but it's so much fun. Yeah. Those Nick Cage moments

are hard to. What you're saying to. Sorry, I

didn't mean to interrupt you there, but just

I did want to mention as you were talking about

kind of the characters coming to their full power,

you know, and everything else. I'm curious to

see what they do with Tombstone. Because he's

very clearly kind of off the tracks of what I

know of, at least in, you know, and your comic

knowledge is far more than mine is. But, you

know, he's kind of way off track from that to

seem like he's. genuinely just a good guy you

know he's you know a good but broken guy that

went through this thing but he's otherwise playing

nice with everybody and you know defending people

that need it and you know so i'll be curious

to see if they do that if that's the direction

they want to take him or if they're gonna you

know something's gonna happen that's gonna kind

of push him the other way later on um and everything

else because they're i mean clearly so far at

least tombstone has been the most liberties taken

with an individual character that i can tell

you know like Everyone else seems pretty on brand

for what they're about. You know, even if they

like with Kat and Hardy, they kind of change

the name and everything else. But she's still

right. More or less the same kind of, you know,

that that we're used to. Right. So, yeah, that

is something just kind of speaking on that same

lines of what you were saying. I'd be curious

to see where they go with that. Yeah, it's a

good call out because he is definitely playing

the sympathetic character in Tombstone. as i

remember him has never been a synthetic character

sandman absolutely sure yeah but yeah it's an

interesting choice maybe the old switcheroo because

yeah it's fun but yeah otherwise uh anything

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